⚜ | Why did Finland have Soviet MiG-21s?

⚜ | Why did Finland have Soviet MiG-21s?


all right so I’m standing here in front of a mig-21 now this aircraft was in service in the Finnish Air Force from the 1960s onwards and it’s a really special part in aviation history not just for Finland but pretty much aviation history as a whole now the story of the mig-21 is making it to Finland is more or less a political story and in 1960s early 1960s this plane was pretty much state-of-the-art it was incredibly fast it was one of the most modern aircrafts out there and of course the Soviet Union guarded mig-21 pretty much for themselves now with them guarding it for themselves this meant that even countries in the Warsaw Pact yeah they are their allies kind of in Eastern Europe didn’t yet receive this aircraft that took them a couple of years however Finland gotten really early in fact Finland was the first country to use MIG 21s outside of the Soviet Union yeah and this is incredibly interesting and bizarre really because Finland was not an allied of the Soviet Union but at the same time Finland was also not exactly an ally of the West it was in a very peculiar spot being just on the border of the Soviet Union and it was a balancing act that had to be struck between the west and essentially is the Soviet Union now what happened in the 1960s is that President s : went to the Soviet Union and he or as at least the Soviets already knew that Finland was looking for its next generation fighter aircraft and they heard that the defense had approached Sweden for some of the early versions of the Saab the rock and in order to get maybe a little bit of influence on Finland in order to stop them from going too far to the west they offered the mig-21 this is quite an offer you gotta say as I said nobody had this aircraft except the Russians Soviets now the first make 21s atmega to Finland are make twenty ones f-14 so this is quite an early version however later on you would also get the mig-21 this which was of course an upgrade to the earlier variants it’s quite an interesting story how Finland started to operate these as well what happened is essentially that pilots were chosen as some of these pilots already had experience flying there for example the vampire and they were shipped off to the Soviet Union they weren’t told where they were going they were untold what they were supposed to do if we just put on a train off to the Soviet Union you go and they ended up after a couple of days of trips in Kezia and over there they ran into Soviet pilots instructors now this is when a sort of language barrier problem developed because the Russian students Big Finish and this finns only spoke a little bit of broken russian but eventually they could more or less explain how these aircrafts work to the finns now during this time there’s two very interesting things can happen first of all one morning the finnish pilots that are supposed to be training on the mig-21s that day find that their barracks and the airfield is essentially deserted all the instructors left they don’t know where they are nobody has told them anything and after a couple of days these guys come back and they don’t really explain a word but later on the pilots realize the finnish pilots realized that there was a thing called the cuban missile crisis and these instructors have been pulled out of the base probably because of this little incident now one other of the little trivia piece of trivia that comes from that time when the Finnish pilots were training in the Soviet Union to become mix 21 pilots is that on one of the days they suddenly saw a flash on the horizon and it turned out that the Soviet Union had in fact tested an atomic bomb more or less in the vicinity obviously quite a few hundred kilometers away but close enough for the pilots to notice the flash and the third part of that story is that apparently a lot of the pilots that were then later on mig-21 pilots actually died of cancer so that might actually in fact be related and it gives it a little bit of a sad twist to the story really but the mig-21 is an incredible aircraft for its time it’s extremely fast and it came as a shock to everybody really that Finland oh the Sun is come let’s get a better shot now yeah it became as a shock to everybody that Finland suddenly had this is amazing kind of fighter whereas before they had essentially had to do with outdated vampires at that point when they got them in the mid 50s and they really had operated second-rate aircraft ever since World War two and with the mig-21 they were back at business and it’s really a fascinating tale really of aviation history but touches aviation history but how politics will be influences sometimes the capability that an aircraft excuse me that an Air Force has and of course you can see the finish round oh this was the finish round out that they received after world war ii obviously the symbol they had before that came out had fallen out of favour with the world even though it didn’t have nothing to do with the symbol that we associate to to that timeframe and i was a serial number mg 1 3 5 now interestingly enough attack actually is that the aircraft that the Russians wanted to avoid Finland of getting that this AB dokkum ended up being in the Spanish Air Force as well and later on about half of the Finnish Air Force was composed out of these vic-20 ones and half of it was this after Dakin but that’s the story for another time I hope you like the look of this mig-21 now I hope that you enjoyed this look at the mig-21 in the finnish air force and I want to give special thanks here to the finish aviation museum for having welcomed me and especially Valery who has gone into detail with so many of the aircraft they have you’re over 80 aircraft in their exhibition and he’s really explained so much detail and stuff that I didn’t myself didn’t know and especially the things that he told me about the mig-21 and its significance for Finland is quite astonishing in the description box below this video you’ll find a lot of information of the Finnish Aviation Museum you’ll find our website there social media and a YouTube channel they already have coupon videos uploaded as well making you check that out they really have some very very interesting stuff and some of the aircraft they have here are one-of-a-kind and extremely important in aviation history now if you want to support my content a little bit more and essentially make videos such as this one possible why not check out on patreon patreon you can make small contributions each month to allow me to visit museums like such as this get new resources for my video and also buy the equipment that I need now as always I hope that you guys have a great day good hunting and see you on the sky

100 Comments on "⚜ | Why did Finland have Soviet MiG-21s?"


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  2. Brag about using soviet junk…pfffttttt
    Your wernt a US alley because you were nazi sympathizers during the war, so none of us (western allies) wanted you jerks😁

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  3. man, U should really get a steadyCam, I got seasick. otherwise – loved the story.

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  4. The Fins always had to make due with outdated equipment even during WW2. They kicked ass nonetheless.

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  5. The politics of the region perhaps……
    Because Finland was/is Neutral but pro Soviet Union/Russia?

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  6. Are you sure this is an earlier version? It does have that ridge that the Mig-21bis has. I thought the earlier versions did not have that?

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  7. This is simply not true. Of the non-aligned countries India, Indonesia, Yugoslavia and Egypt received MiG-21s before Finland. Syria and Iraq might also be in that number. Of the Warsaw Pact member states Bulgaria received MiG-21s simultaneously with Finland and that was after East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland and of course the Soviet Union itself. Once again I am not sure about Romania and Hungary, but they were probably also starting to receive MiG-21s at the same time as Finland. An advanced for its time aircraft as the MiG-21F-13 ending in Finnish service is surprising only to a person, who is oblivious to Finland's geopolitical situation in the Cold War. It declared neutrality, but had an obligation to deny access to third countries (wink-wink) the use of Finnish territory, airspace and the Gulf of Finland to be used for incursions and attacks against the USSR. The lessons learned in WWII were still very fresh. Germany on one side, France on the other, neutral Belgium and Luxembourg inbetween. So France could only afford to build the supposedly impenetrable Maginot Line along its German border. As a result the Wehrmacht circimvened it through BeNeLux and attacked the bunkers from the rear. Instead of falling in a similar situation the Soviets were incentivised to equip Finland with modern weapons to enable its military to inflict much heavier casualties to an invading force before it reaches their own territory. In addition Cold War era Finland was a partner of Comecon and thus was able to repay for Soviet weapons with commodities and its own industrial production, instead of using hard currency to pay for US, British, French etc. weaponry. The finest ships of the Soviet merchant marine were built in Finland and the Soviets were very happy with what they have received from the Finnish shipyards. So this are the reasons why the Finns have received such advanced weapon systems as the MiG-21, Kub SAM, Project 205 fast attack missile boats, Strela-2M MANPADS, Malyutka ATGMs, artillery pieces etc. and why in large numbers. Yes, during the Cold War Finland was neutral, but militarily forced into Eastern leaning. Sweden on the other hand was also neutral, but Western leaning and for that reason was given advanced US technologies, such as the Hughes weapon system and missiles for the SAAB Draken.

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  8. Beautiful pastel camouflage colors. Inviting to be made in, say 1:72 :))
    Besides, fmr. Yugoslavia had already had early Migs 21-C (bubble canopy, completely opening forwards).
    Interesting story anyway, nicely contributing to aviation history.

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  9. Nato countries grab up the latest Russian and Chinese aircraft for the reason of test them out. Radar images, constrution methods, materials used, speed of aircraft, weapons payloads, weapon systems, range of aircraft. Can you imagine the Russians getting a F-117 or F-22 or F-35, or even a B-2 Wow, iit's the equivilent of getting a UFO from another galaxcy, as in Roswell.

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  10. Good interceptor but like so many of those 60s planes the pilot must have struggled to see out.

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  11. I’m not an expert but I would guess they were A very good value for Finland. Much less expensive than an American fighter. Very fast I believe some were capable of Mach 2. And carried a decent weapons load. Not to mention built like a tank.

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  12. and as soon as Finland got these babies, the USA wanted to become really good friends with them…..wink !

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  13. I would have guessed the real reason that all those MIG-21s wound up in Finland was due Soviet defectors.

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  14. disdthe finns use GCI like russia..what sort of tactics did the finns use…love the finnish millitary ..cheers from the USA

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  15. Good video as always. The way you said Kekkonen sounded a lot like keskonen which means prematurely born child. 🙂
    BTW Visiting this museum tomorrow. My second visit and I'm just as excited as the first time I was there.

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  16. You won't get enough radiation just by seeing a flash of an atomic explosion on the horizon. If that were the case, whole Japan, Kazakhstan and Nevada would be dying of cancer.

    Secondly, I rather doubt, that Soviet Union was testing nukes amidst the Cuban Missle Crisis.

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  17. Great information, terrible execution. Instead of using a dumbphone handheld doing the "selfie" thing throughout, I speak for all intelligent people when I point out that we would much rather you had shot the airplane in detail going all around it rather than marching at a distance back and forth over the same areas with your mug in front of the shot the whole time. People interested in this sort of thing don't care to watch your face, we want to see the airplane. Oh, and for God's sake use some sort of stabilizing device. you hurt my eyes watching this.

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  18. Too bad you couldn't show an original MIG 21 f.13 which is really special and very hard to find in aircraft museums. The bis, whole still a wonderful airplane, is quite ubiquitous. Some countries still have flying examples (one of those sadly crashed during an air demo in Romania a couple of weeks ago.) If you are interested in this kind of stuff the Bulgarian Airforce museum has an example of every MiG 21 model sans the original one among other wonderful things such as a trio of Yak 15s

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  19. Excellent..I understand why Finland changed their insignia even though I also understand it had no affinity as such but it did fall out of 'favour' . It's an interesting story why Finland had that insignia but that's another story !

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  20. I really doubt that Finland uses Mig-21's these days, so how come they are still there? Are they operational and does Finland planning on selling them?

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  21. Aircraft is the plural of aircraft. Not aircrafts. Aircraft's would only be said when talking about something owned by the plane. For example. The aircraft's missiles.

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  22. If something had kicked off over Finland with the Soviets and NATO was invited into Finnish air space, I'm sure the term "friendly fire" may have crossed the Finnish Mig pilots minds at least a few times.

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  23. Mitä jäbä höpötät kaks komeeta konetta samaan aikaan. Mig ja Draken taivaankannen halkojat 🤗🤗

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  24. You know what friend, I make special offer for you! No need to go buy capitalist junk I give you state of art aeroplane just for you comrade!

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  25. Finnland was not the first country outside the SU to use MiG-21, Hungary received the first one in 1961, Finnland only one year later, the same year as Romania and East Germany.

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  26. Fun fact: Finns noticed that American Sidewinder missiles were interchangeable with Russian Atolls… Finns had both. Sidewinders were meant for Draken and Atolls for MiG-21.

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  27. When I was 15 years old, the Soviet Union invaded Prag.
    The Finnish News Agency told us that Finland is in a state of emergency.
    They told us that both of our good-for-service MiGs were standing by.
    Maybe they were.

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  28. Boy imagine how hard the Fins had keep this planes secrets, because if the west get their hand in some schematics and there was even a little hint of a Finish leak, that was a very juicy Casus Belli.

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  29. Certain parts of the Finnish air force still use the blue Swastika as their insignia, obviously this is not widely known to the liberal, leftist world mass media or they would be on the Finn's back's.

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  30. The AK47 of the skies…a robust, fast and agile aircraft. It took "top gun" to defeat the N Vietnamese and their Mig 17,19 and 21…

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  31. That pitot tube looks like a recipe for a bruised head. It should have one of those red „remove before flight“ tags on it.

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  32. India still uses upgraded MIG 21. It just shot down a F16 block 52 in the February 2019. Can u believe it. Wow the legend is alive and kicking even today

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  33. Mig 21 is famous 😂 now but everyone is not abhinandan who can destroy f16 lolz

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  34. Indian Mig 21 just shot down last week 1 Pakistani F16 inside Pakistan after dropping bombs on terrorists camps.. afcorse Indian Mig 21 are updated with modern equipment and it can detect 8 different targets.

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  35. A nuke close to finnish pilots? If that is true, this is news to me. I had never heard of this before. Thank you for the update.

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  36. It's called a tripod dude, it makes so your viewers don't get seasick watching. Of course you can just listen, which I did.

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  37. You describe like pro. I like your style and with great power comes responsibility too. Kindly make more vidio on Mig 21. My list starts with India, China, Iraq, Vietnam etc must have interesting stories associated with MIGs. Your time starts now I too am making vida on topic the same.

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  38. AHHH MAAAAN…….. I gotta say, i got SOO much love for ya braaaaaah :kissemoji:

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  39. Very very interesting but than although I was a good simulation pilot I’ve got a 21 on the strike fighters combat simulation cell phone with a liquid gyro scope and a firing mechanism that a good thing !

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  40. In Finno-Soviet treaty of 1948 it was agreed that Finland would resist any attempt to use its territory for attacks on Soviet Union and would ask Soviet help if needed. Without MiG-21 Finland could not offer plausible deterrent against NATO aerial offensive on Leningrad.

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  41. Because, mr hrutsev ask our president kekkonen,how you keeping finland air defence good? And if you cannot keep its good, we are coming and helping your air defense…so pr kekkonen says, ok we buy your in mig figher….. but finland dont have missaile in airplane,bcs paris peace consele said, finland dont have missaile…but somethink its happening 1960. Taiwan and China has little fight in chinese sea. Taiwan use american plane,and one shoot chinese plane in american missaile in china plane, but its not expolene. So chines get new racket,and copy that,and give inststructure in ruskii…so ruskii put same american missaile in mig plane. And when finland buy russian mig,we get in american missaile in ruskii mig….thats short version in this spesial story..finland pilot jyrki, who testing all mig planes told this story true..in kotka airplane museom…its totally true…

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  42. Mig 21 was very good fighter for it's time always thought it was kind of ugly looking compared to the sleek Mig-29

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  43. cool story. The aircraft on the video looks more like one of the recent versions of Mig21. It isn't definitely any of early version. The canopy and the thick hump behind canopy indicates that

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  44. A flash of an atomic bomb 100 km away would have no influence on the rate of cancer in this situation. Paranoia is so free.

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