Alex Wagner – Assessing the Fourth 2020 Democratic Debate | The Daily Show

Alex Wagner – Assessing the Fourth 2020 Democratic Debate | The Daily Show


-All right, let’s, uh,
jump straight into it. -Sure. My favorite question to ask,
because it’s not a real thing, -who won the debate?
-(laughs) You know, I-I feel like -Elizabeth Warren survived
the debate -Okay. -and she was taking on
a lot of incoming fire. -Right. So I’m gonna say she won it. But there– I mean,
it’s hard when you have– That Democratic field,
you’ve made note -of how many of them there were
on that stage. -Yes. Right. It was like, you know,
when you pour water on gremlins and they just start,
like, multiplying. It was like that.
It was hard for people to get a word in edgewise. -She came prepared to push back.
-Yeah. I thought she got a lot
more fire than she would, given the fact that,
technically, Joe Biden, up until a few days ago,
is the guy -that’s been leading
in the polls. -Right. What was amazing
about the debate is how little he seemed to
matter to the rest of the field. Joe Biden didn’t get any of the incoming fire
that Elizabeth Warren got. He-he almost got no attention
from the rest of the field. -Is that– is that a bad sign,
almost? -Yes. -I think, if you’re Joe Biden…
-Because that means– -Yeah, ’cause that means the
other people don’t think -Yeah. you’re a threat, which means -you’re not a threat.
-Not a threat. Yeah. I mean, I think there is–
It is a gift and a curse– uh, to paraphrase Jay-Z– -to be– to be in the hot seat,
right? -Right. Uh, Elizabeth Warren likes being
acknowledged as a frontrunner. She doesn’t like taking on
all the criticism -that she got, I’m sure.
-Mm-hmm. Joe Biden, I’m sure, wishes a little bit more of that fire
was coming his way. It was a remarkable turn
of events, -given where we were in
the last debate. -Any standouts? There’s always a debate moment
where someone goes, wow, this was the moment
where you got that little two, -three percent bump that
could be the difference -Sure. -later on in the race. Anyone?
-Between being -a one percent candidate and
a four percent candidate? -Yeah. -It makes a difference.
-Which matters at this point. Um, I think, you know,
with Biden’s dissent, I think, at least narratively, there is an opening for
a centrist moderate candidate. And you saw a lot of energy being put forth by Amy Klobuchar -and Pete Buttigieg tonight.
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They came with a lot of–
I don’t know– -maybe paprika on their oatmeal
today at breakfast. -Right. -‘Cause they were ready to go.
-Well, yeah. And they kept on saying like,
“The Midwest. -As somebody from the Mid…”
As somebody, like… -Yes. -They kept on…
-Centrism. -Exactly. I am middle.
-Middle of the country. -Middle of the road.
-Yes. -“I’m not crazy.”
-Right. And that was basically
the subtext of every one of their answers. Like, “They’re cray, I’m not.
Vote for me. ‘Cause we need someone
who’s not cray and gonna win.” -Right. -And I think that
they had added momentum tonight precisely because
Biden is bruised at this moment. When you watch these debates…
I mean, it’s three hours of all of these people on stage
putting forth their ideas. They’re going back and forth.
What was interesting is, everyone was going
back and forth. And every time Cory Booker
would speak, he’d be like, -“Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys,
we shouldn’t argue…” -I know. “…because the president
like this, and it’s bad.” But I was like,
“But that’s a debate.” -That’s what a debate is.
-Right. I thought that hand-wringing
was so weird. People were getting like… It was very strange,
’cause he kept on saying it. …so faux, faux-ffended.
-Yes. Like, they were just like,
“This is…” -Like, “Don’t-don’t speak to me
in that tone of voice!” -Right. And it was like, “Did you get
the memo that the point of this is to speak to each other
in that tone of voice?” I mean, I do think that there is a… an emotional battle happening, unfolding inside
the Democratic Party today, -which is, how do you lead
the country forward? -Mm-hmm. What does this party stand for? And it’s a big playing field
between the center of the party and the left flank of the party. And that needs to be litigated. And that’s what
this primary is about. So, yeah,
people should disagree, because, at the end of the day, there needs to be someone that
represents the Democratic Party, and we don’t know
where the party is right now. It’s interesting that you say
the left flank specifically, because, um, just today, like,
there’s news that’s come out -that AOC plans to endorse
Bernie Sanders… -Yeah. …and appear with him
at a rally in Queens, New York
on Saturday. That is pretty big.
AOC is one of the rising… I thought it was gonna be Lizzo. He was like, “There’s gonna be
a special guest!” I was like… (laughter) -No?
-Um… I mean, AOC is cool, too, but… -But she does not… Yeah.
-Who’s gonna move those votes? She doesn’t rap.
She doesn’t rap. I get it. Um, it does seem like-like
a major mini moment, you know? -Sure.
-Because at the… You know, because Bernie Sanders
is one of the big players -in AOC’s life,
her political life. -Mm-hmm. And so, now, her coming out
for him does sort of put him on the pedestal as the left wing
of the party, yes? Yeah, it’s… it’s a…
it’s a blow to Warren as much as it is a boon
to Sanders. I mean, the fact that Warren
is the one with the momentum, she’s a woman– not that that
needs to be who women endorse. -But the fact that she didn’t
get that endorsement… -Right. …is gonna be
as much of a story as Bernie getting
the endorsement. But let me ask you this, though. Do you think
it could actually help Warren? -Because here’s something
I’ve noticed is… -Mm. Mm. You’ve got AOC coming out,
saying, “I’m with Bernie.” -Right. -You’ve got Fox News
and Republican outlets -who have been trying to paint
Warren as Bernie. -Right. -Lefty Liz.
-Now you have AOC saying, -“No, Bernie is my person.”
-Sure. And AOC is painted
as the crazy left of the thing. And so now,
you’ve got Elizabeth Warren who has a space where
she’s carved herself out as, “No, I have a plan,
but I’m not as left as Bernie. I’m also going to give you
progressive policies.” Does that actually help her? That is like a seven-layer ninja, like,
mind jujitsu sundae. And I appreciate it, Trevor. I think she’s probably more
just, like, bummed that she didn’t get
AOC’s endorsement. But, I mean, I think
probably there’s some, like, -residual aftereffect that is
positive for her. -Right. I-I think it bears mentioning
in this moment that AOC worked
on Sanders’ campaign in 2016. Um, the reason
she ran for office in 2018 is ’cause she was recruited
by a group -that grew out
of Sanders’ campaign. -Mm-hmm. So she clearly feels
some affinity there, and maybe– I don’t know– he promised her
a vice presidency? I don’t know
what was in the bag to sweet… I’m kidding about that.
I don’t have any reporting to suggest
that they’re running together. Although, he would have to pick
someone pretty young. Um… -(laughter)
-Uh… so… So, all of that is to say, um, I think it’s a good
and important thing for Bernie to get that endorsement
as there are a lot of doubts about his staying power
in the race right now. So the debate is done. We just
watched the fourth debate. Are Americans learning anything
from these debates? Is the needle being moved
in any particular direction? Or has it just become rhetoric? Like, when you’re watching,
just as an observer who is both, you know,
in the world of news, but also as somebody
who’s just involved in politics and as an American,
are you watching that going, “Huh. that does change my mind,” or “That actually
would move the needle”? You know, I think
this debate gets… or these debate series
are getting dinged for being, you know, the too many gremlins
on stage, etcetera. I’m dinging them myself.
But at the end of the day, I do think
that there is some sub… there is some substantive debate
about health care policy. -Yes.
-We didn’t see anything on the environment
or immigration tonight, but we’ve seen that
in previous… previous debates. I mean, I think you have a bunch
of people on stage who very… care… care
very deeply about policy… -Mm-hmm.
…and want to talk through it, and understand this moment
for the Democratic Party. So I do think
there’s meat in there. I think there should be
fewer questions like, “Hey, old person,
are you too old?” and “Young person,
are you too young?” I mean, nobody up there
is gonna be like, “You know what?
I am too young for this.” “I am too old for this.
Take me out, Coach.” -Like, no more
of those questions. -Right. Overall, I’m giving this
a strong B minus -in terms of substance. -Well,
it was a pretty good debate. -B minus from you is an “A” for
many people. -You’re welcome. Thank you so much for joining us
on the show again. -Thank you.
-Great having you back. The Circus airs Sundays
at 8:00 p.m. on Showtime. It’s a really fun show.
Alex Wagner, everybody.

100 Comments on "Alex Wagner – Assessing the Fourth 2020 Democratic Debate | The Daily Show"


  1. So, the guy who had a heart attack 2 weeks before this debate, was still the same guy as before and is still campaigning, who is the benchmark for the debate in the party, who got not only AOC but Ilhan Omar, the first Muslim woman in Congress' backing, AND completely outdid the field in the last quarter in money, donations and cash on hand with no corporate backing, only gets a passing mention? Yeah, this is why corporate media is having a hard time understanding and analyzing what's going on in Presidential politics.

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  2. Absolutely moronic keep-the-status quo drivel. Biden is losing because people don't want a centrist (which really means neo-liberal). Trump won because people don't want a centrist (well that and the electoral college). People in general don't know what will fix things but they know that the system we have now isn't working. The Democratic party for once has a solid vein of truly inspiring progressive, but all the corporate media and many from the DNC themselves can only call them crazy and claim that they're too out there to win. Despite polls showing that they are the most likely to attract back Trump voters who previously voted for Obama.

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  3. Trevor, please endorse Bernie fairly as he’s been fighting for the American working class for over 40 years. Every chance you get you minimize his significance. I know your mom has taught you better than to bow down to the elite. Treat him fairly. He is deliberately ignored by the corporate media. Don’t buy into the elites group think.

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  4. When I saw Alex I was pretty sure she will go WARREN or push a centrist. This moron wanted hillary in 2016 all because she was a woman.

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  5. dude wtf was this. Literally you could swap Alex out for a random person off the street and get similar analysis. This whole thing was literally her saying "I think that candidate x is probably thinking y" What an absurd waste of a guest. That line about AOC maybe being Sanders running mate is pretty hilarious also considering she's not even old enough to be eligible.

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  6. Remember when Trevor Noah showed a video of Bernie apparently saying "You're dumb" to a kid?
    Turns out, Trevor manipulated the video, cut it off to hide the rest of the conversation, which went on to say "… if you dont sit down and learn how to read and write. – Kids says "but I'm too stupid" – No you are not."
    Shame on you, Trevor.
    https://youtu.be/3ZhkKATtqtU

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  7. The moment you position centrism as a saving choice, you have no credibility. Centrism is what got us in this mess in the first place.

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  8. This woman is clueless ..aside from that….3 minutes and 17 seconds- nearly half the segment before a word about Bernie…. nah, they aren't ignoring him…smh… btw… the center has moved so far right in these last years that the "far left" in this country is pretty centrist in other countries…. so take that crap back to the corporate handlers . It's clear that corporate media in general is afraid of Bernie because he isn't beholden to any of their big money cronies….. I stand with the man who has been on the right side of history and fighting the good fight for decades. Bernie Sanders !! #StillSanders #AlwaysSanders

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  9. Centrist candidates don’t make change! We don’t need more of the same, Republican light candidates in charge. There is no forward with them- only stalemate.

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  10. I would like to post this comment in appreciation of the beauty of Alex Wagner. She is beautifull.

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  11. It is simply unwise to get Any political commentary from mainstream media. A mini big moment? The mental gymnastics required to downplay the historic actions of Bernie Sanders is laughable. Where is John Stewart when ya need him? Trevor is nowhere Near the activist John is.

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  12. The consequence of marginalising Bernie will be the victory of trump ! Elisabeth will never be able to match trumps attacks ! Bernie 2020

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  13. SANDERS 2020— Wagner read the comments. no one real agrees with you. youre a hack. am not apologizing for calling you what you are. don't be a hack its ugly

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  14. Who has the momentum now? Bernie moving to second and Warren moving to third place. Yeah we should continue hearing pundits with an agenda.

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  15. I've got people I like and people I think will win and unfortunately they are not the same people. I'm still waiting for the clowns to leave the race because right now it's still a circus.

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  16. Bernie Sanders receives the endorsement of the most dynamic young voice in progressive politics, and Alex still finds a way to shit on him. These fucking millionaires never cease to disgust me.

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  17. C'mon! "There are a lot of doubts" about Bernies "staying power"??? Sorry lady but your talk is MSM-BS…

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  18. The only "doubts about [Bernie's] staying power" is coming from the establishment, in a fit of wish fulfillment.
    The rest of us know he's the one to fight for us — and we for him and each other. #Bernie2020

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  19. 2:38 When a journalist thinks that the point of debate is argument and not reaching consensus, then democracy is doomed. I used to respect Alex. Now I can't say I do.

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  20. This is so dumb making the other candidates are trying to make warren less appealing instead of making themselves more appealing which will do nothing but help the republicans

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  21. If Bernie would become president it would be like a beacon of hope after all these chaotic years. Modern Nations need to consider the possibility that they can build federations instead of Empires. Imperialism is becoming obsolete in this Era. But while the Governments try to figure themselves out, so do the people. So what do you want to become:
    Authoritarian or Egalitarian
    Oligarchic or Democratic
    Spiritualist or Materialist
    Xenophobe or Xenophile
    Militarist or Pacifist

    The list goes on. But if you can answer those questions for yourself, I believe that our societies will become less chaotic and more stable.

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  22. Elizabeth won the debate really! she didn't even give straight ans to any ques for god sake 😃.

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  23. If Democrats vote for Biden or kamala Harris, it’s gonna be a sign that they are the dumbest country on planet earth

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  24. Centrist are the reason for why we have Trump! Neoliberalism is dead-Sorry. Not buying this BS. The progressive are going to take the Democratic Party back to being True FDR dems! #feelthebern we can totally tell what this lady is doing. Thank you Trevor for mentioning Bernie who keeps getting blackballed by media. Tulsi will balance Bernie.

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  25. oh trevor, the subtleties of your bias against Bernie. When comparing him with Warren, saying Warren has "a plan" did not go unnoticed. Gimme a break with this MSM talking points that Warren has "a plan". Bernie has plans as well!!

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  26. sis needs to focus on policy, it’s not surprising that aoc endorsed the candidate she actually agreed with.

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  27. It's crazy that she won't say Pete Buttigieg won the debate like… everyone who watched it knows he won.

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  28. Alex is phyne, entertaining and inquisitive – she would make a very good actress. Trevor, the two of you were flowing and have palpable chemistry, unfortunately, she's married to a political dude. Without question, she is a yes-woman and gives undeserving reverence to the 1% and unwilling to bite the hand that feeds her.

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  29. Amy klobuchar on Pete buttigieg – "I win red districts with majority Republicans"
    Me "yeah because your policies and idealism is Republican. You are Republican. 99% of the democratic party insiders are Republicans. This is why we need Bernie Sanders who's an actual left-wing idealog with actual left-wing policies".
    So in short Amy and Pete. Should go ahead and run against Donald Trump on the Republican ticket. They can take Kamala Harris and Joe Biden with them.

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  30. Andrew Yang forced them to talk about his policies in the debates and yet no mentions of him again.

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  31. I didn't know who AOC is until she endorsed Bernie. I still don't know anything about her except that she's a… mayor?

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  32. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

    Yea sure. Only healthcare was discussed in the debate. Not like someone made them talk about automation and UBI in 3 debates. That's not the highlight. The highlight was healthcare.

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  33. Corporate Democrats live in another world!
    Bernie Sanders obviously won the debate by reminding Biden his vote for invading Iraq illegally.

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  34. Yang is the only candidate able to unite the ENTIRE country. Reasonable, date-driven, fact based candidate has my vote!

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  35. Wow. Mainstream media bending itself over backwards to turn AOC's endorsement into a positive for ANYONE other than Bernie. How about report on the news… Bernie has the most widespread support, Bernie has plans for every issue we're facing as a nation (better plans than Warren), and he's the ONLY candidate who is polled as beating Trump in Iowa, where Biden & Warren both are shown losing to the Angry Orange.

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  36. Wtf Trevor?! Why would you bring on an obviously biased jerk to come and lie about who clearly owned the debate? She belongs to the 1% that Bernie is taking over, so she can keep her bs opinions to herself.

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  37. Andrew Yang for President! He commanded that stage when it came time for him to speak and has taken over the narrative when it comes to the economy and in the subject of automation!

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  38. The entire 4th debate was driven by issues Andrew yang has pushed to the forefront and still no mention of him? Sad #yang2020

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  39. Alex Wagner does not make sense. Maybe she is basing her assessment on who got the most words on stage.

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  40. You should have not dowsed off during the debate then you would have realized that Andrew Yang clearly led and changed the conversation. The video is no more than a scripted conversation driven by Comedy Central pushing an agenda. Andrew Yang in 2020

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  41. You know how trump said the Democrats "stick together" more? Think about what the Republicans are/were willing to put up with in order to have a Republican win? Democrats disagreeing is a good thing that we should stop cautioning against so that you can win the same vote as someone else. Say YOUR plan, take a stance and then let us vote

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