Andrew Yang Correctly & Morally Rules Out 3rd Party Run

Andrew Yang Correctly & Morally Rules Out 3rd Party Run


okay, here is some nice logical, just sensible
news, which is the democratic presidential candidate. Andrew Yang has ruled out the possibility
of running third party or running independent if he doesn’t win the 2020 democratic nomination. Now, why is this news? It’s news because if the goal is to defeat
Donald Trump, why would you do anything that makes a Donald Trump victory? More likely, which a third party run by a
former democratic, a presidential contender would do, and this was literally his explanation
yesterday at the Washington post event. He said, quote, I would never do anything
that would increase the chance of Donald Trump becoming president again. The goal is to beat that man, get him out
of the oval office. Now again, you might still be saying, but
David, why is this news? Why is this something that you’re talking
about? It’s news because there is a contingent of
the electorate in the United States, including on the left and it’s a toxic contingent that
has a sort of burn it all down mentality. If it’s not my candidate, then I don’t care
who wins, even if it’s the worst person, and I would even encourage, this is not me saying
it, it’s them. I would even encourage them to run third party. I don’t care if that takes just enough votes
from the eventual democratic nominee to allow Donald Trump to slide into a second term,
and this is particularly relevant today because it’s the type of attitude that had people
on the left who didn’t like Trump but also didn’t like Hillary staying home in 2016 because
so they said they’re effectively the same voting third party in 2016 and now Donald
Trump increasingly controls the judiciary for decades with the Supreme court picks and
now more than 25% of high level judges have been selected by Donald Trump. It ruins, he has ruined endless important
alliances, geopolitical alliances. He has embarrassed the world in a way that
will take a very long time to recover from. And that is why, this is great to just hear
from Andrew Yang and maybe this is actually a good time to talk a little more generally
about Andrew Yang. Uh, most people in my audience know that I
was, uh, both one of the earliest people interviewing Andrew Yang, I mean more well over a year
ago before he was getting very much attention. I won’t say I was the first person interviewing
him, but very early I got interested in talking to Andrew Yang because we’ve been talking
about universal basic income for years at this point on the show. But also my audience knows that I’ve been
critical of Andrew Yang when he has an idea that I think is not 100% there, for example. I also don’t think that he’s going to win
the nomination, but I don’t really get some of the attacks against Andrew Yang that I’ve
been seeing. The idea of Andrew Yang is some kind of libertarian
Trojan horse. It’s very boring to me. He appeals to some people who are on the center,
right? Tulsi Gabbert appeals to a bunch of people
that are on the right. The right, it would be wrong to say Tulsi
is a white supremacist because David Duke endorsed her in the same way. Yang is not, you know, some stealth right-wing
libertarian because some libertarians like him. There is a fair criticism to make about Andrew
Yang that he sees politics sort of as like a project management thing or, or like a consultancy
you bring in a business consultant than they just figure out what tweaks to make. Okay. That’s a fair criticism. Uh, you can say that Andrew Yang, uh, has
not fleshed out in detail the numbers behind some of his proposals. I was talking to a couple of people the other
day who have gone through the proposals in detail. They say the idea may still be a good idea,
but the numbers Andrew Yang has on his website attached to some of these proposals and maybe
we’ll do this in detail, not, I’m kind of riffing here. I wasn’t prepared to do this in detail. Some of the numbers don’t really add up, or
at least they’re not complete enough. He hasn’t demonstrated that they work. Those are all perfectly fair critiques. I’ve been critical of the VAT tax proposal
of Andrew Yang, but Andrew Yang is clearly not running to screw over Democrats. He’s clearly not running some kind of stealth
right-wing campaign and he’s made it abundantly clear that he’s not going to do anything that
will help Donald Trump get reelected like running third party. Andrew Yang doesn’t take cheap shots at other
candidates when he disagrees, he does it respectfully. He’s pushed some important issues into the
conversation about taxation or large Corp taxation of large corporations. UBI automation, even if you don’t think those
are the most important issues overall, we’re better off with those issues as part of the
discussion. So in the same way that I said last week when
I talked about let’s not idolize politicians, uh, when you look w when, if you look at countries
where leaders are idolized and almost deified, those are not countries that I think we want
to be like. Let’s also not see everything in black and
white. Every candidate is either great or terrible,
good or evil, an honest actor or someone exhibiting or, or, or you know, involved in some kind
of subterfuge to completely trick the electorate about what they really are. Andrew Yang has some interesting ideas. You can be critical of his general approach. He’s being upfront, he’s being, as far as
I see, honest about his intentions and his goals. And I think it’s a great thing that he said,
no, I’m not going to do anything that will help Donald Trump win, uh, including, uh,
a third party run. If you disagree with me, let me know. I’m glad to hear reasonable arguments, um,
against Andrew Yang being a good faith actor. If you can put them together.

100 Comments on "Andrew Yang Correctly & Morally Rules Out 3rd Party Run"


  1. Yang is way better than Bernie, Warren, and Biden…. hes better than every single candidate on the stage, why would anyone not support him

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  2. This is good because I do think Yang could be a total spoiler. Whatever happens I think he's got a great future.

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  3. btw a harvard economy professor who ranked top 10 in the world has just endorsed Andrew yang and showed the number will work. some guy last name is Mankim

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  4. Andrew Yang has many great ideas. I don’t think he has a shot at it “this time” sadly however I do see him as a Great President in the future!! He has an amazing future and hope he doesn’t give up.

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  5. I'm not saying "It has to be Yang", there are others. But he goal isn't just to remove Trump, the goal is to remove the rot that allowed him to manifest in the first place.

    If someone like Biden or another regressive neolib gets the nomination Yang or Bernie SHOULD run 3rd party, maybe on the same ticket.

    If we just fall in line behind the exact same things that kept people home last time what do you expect to happen this time?

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  6. One of the biggest problems I have with Andrew Yang, and where I speculate the "Trojan Horse," accusations comes from, is that he doesn't want to raise minimum wage, expand welfare (or use it at all, the UBI he wants in replacement of it), and the effect is that this actually deeply undermines a lot of social safety net features, further exacerbating the class divide between haves vs. have nots in America, much like serfs in medieval Europe. This why hardcore MMT-ers and Bernie Sanders would rather a Federal Job Guarantee because it forces the private sector to compete and DO BETTER THAN the government, rather than simply ensuring that people have money to spend on services/goods that continue to support the wealthiest 1%. It's a common Libertarian party stance that instead of social safety nets we should just have the money directly (usually they argue in the form of no taxes) and choose where to allocate funds individually. This CLEARLY ignores that it's completely nonsensical to try to individually fund roads, water, electricity, infrastructure, and is the reason our healthcare and infrastructure DO so drastically suffer right now, because ever since Reagan, the US keeps trying this idiotic "experiment."

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  7. My god, this guy is Amazing. Independents or 3rd parties haven’t won a presidential election for a long long time. It’s a waste of votes.

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  8. You could have made the same video about Tulsi. She has repeatedly ruled out running third party. The fact that you chose not to even mention that in the various videos where you smear her, is not good.

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  9. The reason that attitude has been growing is because of how dysfunctional and corrupt our system has gotten, if you want to overcome this stuff we need to voting reform, campaign finanace reform, and I would strongly argue Ranked Choice Voting.

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  10. The problem with people wanting to burn everything down is that while they might not bother with fire extinguishers, everyone else does.
    So congrats, anyone stupid enough to go that route, you just Salem'ed yourself.

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  11. Honestly, I do not see anyone else, other than Yang, who is better than Trump. Both parties are corrupt and it is time to destruct and rebuild.

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  12. What about Andrew's statement about the openness to becoming Biden's VP? Your thoughts on that? If Yang doesn't get the nomination I would perfer a Sanders/Yang ticket. His youthful and tech savvy view of the world merged with Bernie's long time wisdom and knowledge of Washington's inner workings.

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  13. Doesn't this only matter in states that are actually in contention in an election? Like if you vote third party in california, what does it matter? As long as you vote third party in a solid blue state and keep your mouth shut you don't affect anything.

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  14. The traditional polling we have does not to account for the broad support he has. Every day I see online more joining the #yanggang.

    Whatever happens though I believe whoever is the future president will take him on in some capacity.

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  15. If it's biden or hillary, yeah, fucking burn it down. I dont want to be at war with russia (hillary) and i dont want to be in bed with russia (trump) NOOOO thank you

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  16. Should the party nominate someone terrible like Biden I would welcome 3rd party runs. For me I have a personal interest in seeing universal healthcare and college enacted and if those things aren't something more centrist Democrats can compromise with me on then they're not worth my vote. Democrats have catered to the center for too long while ignoring the wants of the left wing and it's time people realized their vote is their only bargaining chip. Clinton called our bluff in 2016 and lost, if the next candidate does the same and they win don't be surprised when it happens again.

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  17. If the Dems want to win they need to pick Yang . He's got voter from every block including the politically disengaged. That's how you know he's making more sense than anyone.

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  18. Chile of da lie Pakberg doesn't understand that them Chinermen can't be trusted. Especially with our women. We could never accept a president who behaves improperly with women.

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  19. David, 👍!Whoever is attacking Yang, Stop! I think based on my observation of his personality and actions, if he loses primary, he will immediately come out to support whoever wins the primary! He will even ask his supporters to support the winner in the general election too. Very open minded man. Don’t make the Yang Gang dislike or hate your candidate and then stay home when the general election comes, like many Bernie supporters did to Hilary in 2016. And someone please tell Hilary your times are over. You had your chance and you blew it. Stay home! Tulsi will be our great VP in 2020. LOL Bernie will be the speaker of the house, pushing for UBI and Medicare For All! lol

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  20. By the same token, shouldn’t the left ask or at least threaten Biden to quit? A Biden nomination would also almost definitely increase the chance of a second term. Looks like we are not being consistent here. This is perhaps the left of this country is so weak.

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  21. We need Yang as president so that we can finish off the Republican party. If Yang passes UBI and once all the skeptics receive their UBI and actually sees the benefits to their lives, there's no way in hell they're going to be voting for anyone that runs against UBI (which is also supposed to politically protect M4A) and who is going to be mostly against UBI? Corporatist Democrats and Republicans.

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  22. World famous economist Greg Mankiw is a big fan of Andrew’s proposal of the Freedom Dividend getting paid through VAT.

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  23. I personally think Andrew Yang is the only candidate that is talking about the real issue the country is facing and will continue to face in the very near future and that's automation and AI.

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  24. lol "Morally" 😂 That's an odd word choice for a group of people who slaughter millions of babies. Try "prayerful", instead, moon bat. 😆

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  25. Mad respect to Andrew Yang. A true underdog running a solid campaign on addressing issues (even though I disagree with some of his issues, instead of grandstanding, playing political games, and crying that the primary is rigged against him.

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  26. David your missing a critical point. Saying that we will burn it all puts fear into the corporate dems eyes, they can’t have a second Hillary 👀. It causes them to go way more left on big issues. We are moving the overton window. Even if they are just empty promises, that’s a push further left for the next generation.

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  27. My only caveat is if Hilary joins and wins the non. Then I’ll vote 3rd party or write someone in.

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  28. You need to rethink almost every thing you think because you are so biased that you don't know you are biased. Don't believe me. I'm joking.

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  29. I am very curious what do y'all think, if Bernie Sanders doesn't get the nomination, should he try to run as a third-party?

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  30. There is no such thing as “taking votes”. People don’t owe their votes to anyone and one may not vote at all if their candidate doesn’t run third party. I hate this entitlement people have over other citizens votes.

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  31. A bit unfair to go for numbers on Yang when every other candidate has a 'framework' at best about the policy (wealth tax/fjg/m4a..). I will say that those are still better than non policy people like Pete, Amy, Camala…

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  32. With an exception of Pete, Amy, Camala, I'll vote Dem. Otherwise sorry, I'm not a big Democrat in party terms

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  33. Question: why is ranked choice voting not even a talking point in American Politics? Everyone is so scared of "spoiled votes", when that could so easily be a non-issue. It's like your system wants people to only ever stick with these two parties, disdain and smear anyone who ever dares thinks beyond these boxes and then creates a toxic festering environment of division and hate. And recycle every 4 years. i guess it makes for good ratings.

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  34. The YangGang isn’t the type to have this “burn it down” mentality that you talk off. They want to fix the problems and they understand how voting for him as a third party candidate would only help trump. And tell us about the numbers in detail in a video

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  35. Yeah I’m pretty sure Bernie and Warren also don’t have precise numbers on how they will fund their proposals. Again the ideas are not bad at all.

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  36. Seriously no one should be criticizing Yangs numbers when no other candidate has even done basic math on their proposal or policy. Bernie has done some but most everyone else is spewing nonsense WTF

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  37. Your so-called "fair criticisms" of Andrew Yang are ill-informed takes on him and his campaign. Managing government with a few tweaks like a consultant? You're kidding me. Numbers incomplete? You're freakin' kidding me. This is what happens when people only skim his website, which admittedly doesn't have every detail, given that there are over 160 policies on there. Watch a real interview. Better yet, read his book. Understand what he's saying before trying to characterize or dismiss him. Yang is running on "humanity first," in essence changing the way we fundamentally think about our value as human beings. This notion underlies everything he's proposed, which goes way beyond simply "tweaking" a few things like a businessman. I've got a lot of respect for some of the other candidates; but Yang is miles ahead of the curve. If people would just stop worshipping Sanders or Warren for like a day and really examine Yang's policies, many would probably change their tune. At the very least, they would stop with the ill-informed commentaries on his campaign.
    The only fair criticism of Yang that I've heard is his lack of foreign policy experience. Personally, I think his intelligence, poise, and solution-oriented approach would serve him well representing American interests. But if you compare him to, say, Tulsi Gabbard, I can't argue with his relative inexperience.

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  38. David, you can't just say the numbers add up without explanation. Better yet, you should have him back on the show.

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  39. David – you need to realize that a bunch of the commenters who are supposedly yang supporters saying that it's yang or nothing… they are similar to the supposedly bernie supporters saying the same thing. MOST of those are right-wingers who are trying to induce democrats to splinter off and not vote! i have now engaged several of them, and they are not true yang or bernie people. yes, some people will say 'yang or bust' — but they are just being enthusiastic for the primaries. the real supporters DO understand the gravity of the trump situation and would vote for another democrat rather than let trump win.

    my only concern is if hillary is the opponent again… I worry what people would do then?

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  40. You said "I dont get some of the attacks against Andrew Yang." Just know, they attack what they fear. They coddle and make excuses for what they love. When the media is hating on someone, pay attention to that person because they have some sort of idea that is going to shift power and wealth around.

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  41. Thing is though, Yang and Yulsi have no chance of winning, and the three who has a chance are all worse than Trump, so I hope someone starts a 3rd party. Better to get a bigger 3rd party rolling instead of trying to force a bad president just to try and get someone else out of office.

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  42. The VAT tax is foreign to Americans, but the rest of the world get it (it works). 90% of countries have a VAT, not because they are stupid and continue with something that does not work, Yang does his homework. I get it, people are very emotionally invested in Bernie and this will cause them to be blind to something better. I am shocked that David fell for it, but he is not the only one. TYT, The Rational National, Kyle Kolinsky, The Humanist Report, Sam Cedar…….The Hill (Rising) is the only Progressive channel that seems to have a objective view and call it like it is. Yang has a much better chance than Bernie to be President, if you consider all the variables. Yang didn't start off with 10 million dollars (moved from a previous campaign), the name recognition of Bernie, or the numbers of his supporters. He has some other advantages though. Could an unknown Bernie with no money get as far as Yang has come so far? None of the candidate could have, because they don't have Yang's intelligence, confidence, vision, strategy, efficiency, knowledge, laser focus, effectiveness, drive, depth of understanding, problem solving ability and even genuineness. Bernie is genuine, but it was Yang that stood up and called Hillary out with her bullshit accusations against Tulsi being a Russian asset. AOC and Bernie were too worried that it might harm their campaign and the people will see who's the most genuine. It's easy to say the right thing when it won't cost you anything.

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  43. Mostly agreed though his solutions are far from "business consultant tweaks". Both Freedom Dividend and human-centered capitalism are fundamental shift in defining modern relationship between market and society as well as addressing inequality.

    He considers himself a problem solver not neccessarily subscribing to particular ideology which may well be what the US needs more of, pragmatism.

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  44. All arguments aside… imagine seeing a poor person or a poor family member (or needing money yourself) in 2021 KNOWING that YOU voted against giving them $1,000 a month. I can think of no greater torture for anyone against Yang. Seriously. Do you really think that the 78% living paycheck to paycheck cares about politics over their survival? Moot point, because Yang wins.

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  45. Glad that I found a reasonable left wind commentator who makes more in depth analysis than “Establishment bad, Bernie good”.

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  46. Funny sam sedar just made tim pool look like a dumbass child about this very issue. Because tim was saying hed rather not vote at all instead of voting for someone that would cause less harm then the other candidate. Sam wasnt having that nonsense. Tim is a fuckin moron.

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  47. Strategically it’s too early to disclose it, he could have used it to bargain a cabinet position that can advance his cause.

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  48. I'd be interested to see if, even though you dont think Yang will be the nominee, would you be happy (not just some what satisfied or begrudgingly supportive) to have him as your president?

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  49. VAT- Works for every other major country that has it (which is most of them) but nope not for us.
    Wealth Tax- Failed in basically every major country, but yeah let's do that. Bernie bro logic 👉🤯

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  50. Massive respect for Yang, he may not win this election but he should try next time. 2020 is for Bernie!

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  51. Talk about how yang pulled a tulsi/warren and said he loves the "spirit" of medicare for all but thinks dismantling the insurance companies is to divisive or bad. That to me was a bad take. Bernie all the way even more!

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  52. Oh you are a beacon of morality 👎
    Also Yang sounds like kermit the 🐸. His most dominate policie<universal basic income> and if nessisary anyone that is president should be able to implement, seems to be a bandage on a broken system. A system that probably won't make it to automation. Also not sure about his debate skills strikes me as a techy that has trouble talking to people so they have to hire a guy with charms and technical jargon to speak for them.

    Other than that like his ideas, but think it's too soon.

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  53. I respect his ideas about not going third party. I'm still most likely voting third party because I vote for the one that I want, not the math problem of who I don't want. Sorry Wang. If you think I'm helping Trump win, give me a better candidate than party politics provides. In case you don't get it, " I rarely vote for party candidates.".

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  54. We've already seen the rate of success of running as 3rd Party would do. This discussion is moot.
    Andrew Yang will be nominated for the Democratic run, and will beat trump at his deceptive game with facts you cannot dismiss.
    Many Americans have felt left out during the crisis of 2008. Obama saved this country. trump turned back the clock. Yang will set the clock back so Americans can look up again.
    See you all in 2020 at the voting booth for Andrew Yang's win.

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  55. Hey David. Regardless of which candidate we support, we're both working towards combating tribalism, and I think that's a beautiful thing.

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  56. Andrew Yang if Andrew yang is not a dishonest libertarian trojan horse, then he is an idiot.
    he wasn't to replace the welfare state with UBI, every one getting the same amount while ignoring all mitigating circumstances.
    the whole point of welfare is that in order to level the playing field and provied equal opportunities to everyone some people need to get more than others.
    let's say you are one of the unfortunate ones to suffer from some disease …a healthy person could use his/her UBI money to advance in life, open a business get an education, whatever…while the unlucky person would have to use the money for medision and healthcare costs…you'd be still disadvantaged.
    if you can't see that Andrew Yang 's UBI plan exacerbates inequality in the U.S you are either evil or stupid.
    UBI in addition to the welfare state would be great…Andrew Yang is a libertarian torjian house, if he is aware of that or not is another matter.

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