Chad Prather’s Cowboy Capitalism | Guest: Chad Prather | Ep 16

Chad Prather’s Cowboy Capitalism | Guest: Chad Prather | Ep 16


– Welcome to Kibbe on Liberty. We get to talk to Chad Prather, the Cowboy Philosopher,
and we’re gonna talk about whether or not conservatives are actually secretly libertarian, what American tolerance
is really all about, and yes, we’re gonna
talk about penis hats. Yes, penis hats. It’s gonna get weird. Check it out. (rock music) – [Matt] So one of the rules is that there really aren’t any rules. – [Chad] All right.
– You’re kind of allowed to do whatever you want. – It’s kind of the way we do it. – Yeah, yeah. – Now we’ve got a way to define it. – But this is also, one of the rules is that this is a drinking show, but since it’s before noon,
I thought we’d pour it into a coffee cup so people
didn’t know about it. – People won’t think
we’re actually alcoholics? – Right.
– Like we are. – But I mean, it’s noon somewhere. – Yeah, it is and so, I’ve just decided that I use the airport’s example. That’s the one place
they just don’t judge you if you start drinking
early in the morning. – That’s right. Love it. You gotta drink in an airport. So this is Colorado whiskey. I don’t know if you’ve
ever had Stranahan’s, but it’s one that I like. – I have, I have. I like it. I don’t think of myself as a whiskey snob, but I do drink probably
way too much whiskey. Cheers. I don’t know if that’s possible to drink too much whiskey, actually. – Yeah, I’m uncomfortable
with that phrase. – (laughing) Yeah. I’ve thought about that. It kind of caught in my
tongue when I said it. No, I drink whiskey like most people drink beer or wine. You’re a beer drinker though, aren’t you? – Yeah, yeah.
– Yeah, big beer drinker. I’ll have one or two every so often. My wife’s the beer drinker. She’s a cheap beer drinker, though. – Well, I judge those people. – I know you do (laughing)! What I never understood
is people who go into the craft breweries and
they start asking for, they’ll have 300 beers on the wall and they’re reading through the things, and there are all these weird, wild names and it almost feels like
it’s weed, but for beer. And then you’re like oh
yeah, Donk’s Crazy Head. That sounds delicious. All I know is it’s an
IPA and some weird name. That sounds delicious.
– Not that you’ve ever been at a weed store, but you
just described it perfectly. – Oh, a time or two. We were out at, we were in Vegas at the dispensary out
there ’cause we were doing an episode for my show, Humor Me, that actually comes out, I think, this week about marijuana. And so we went to the
dispensary out in Vegas. 45,000 square feet. I mean, they’re making
so much money out there that they’re having to
figure out things to do like put digital floors down that react when you walk on them. There’s drone shows in the sky. They’re adding another
100,000 square feet. I’m like hey man, cannabis
business, hemp business is good. – Yeah, we did a show right after Vegas legalized recreational marijuana. And my goal was to sort
of normalize the industry because whatever your
preconceived notion is about it, it’s really a small
business guy that’s trying to provide a service and make a profit. And a lot of his customers
aren’t reggae stars, they’re grandmas that are
trying to get out of bed in the morning, so they
use CBD and stuff like that to do that, but– – I was talking to a guy
the other day who came back. It’s one of those typical
stories you’ve probably heard a million times, and I don’t
ever want it to get stale in hearing, but it’s one of these guys who came back from war,
a lot of issues going on, and started using cannabis to, I mean, it really changed his life. And we’ve heard the stories
over and over again. But something he said that
was profound about that one was he said his father
came to him and said I shouldn’t have to fight
the law just to be healthy, and I agree with that 100%. I’m one of those terms you probably hate. I’m always still trying to figure out one of those conservatarians,
I’m there but on the Right, but again, to each their own. What can I do? For one, I can’t legislate morality. I can’t legislate, I
can’t block immorality. And again, there’s a lot
of things that I think we’ve perceived as
immoral that are amoral. That has nothing to do with anything. It’s just people living their life. You know?
– Yeah. Well, but I look at the data, and conservatives and libertarians, and anybody that doesn’t really
want to dictate the terms of somebody else’s choices in life. They’re all coming around on cannabis, and I think it’s particularly outrageous that our veterans, guys
that have been through hell and back, they get back here and they’re dealing with issues, and some political asshole
says no, you can’t do that. – Yeah, and that’s the thing. I mean, you’ve got guys
who are coming back and they’re on 20 pills a day. Your body can’t regulate and heal itself when you’re numbing it to that point. So there has to be some
natural remedy to it. So, we came back. I think we spent about
$1,100 that day in Vegas. (laughing) – You actually brought
stacks of 20s in, right? – Yeah (laughing)!
– ‘Cause you have to pay cash, right?
– No, they’ll actually take a debit card at that one. Most places are cash,
but they would actually take a debit card. But no, now I’m reading
up trying to figure out how you travel with CBD oils. I’m like, are we good? Are we okay? And I’m like, probably not,
but I’m taking them anyway. – Yeah. Some are and some aren’t,
and there’s all sorts of, I hate the ambiguity of it. But the concept of my
show, which is fairly new, is I wanted to have almost
everybody and anybody on. I’m a libertarian. Everybody knows that,
but I’m trying to find the common ground and the
things that hold us together, even if we belong to a
different political team or we come from a different place. And I’ve had libertarians
and progressives. I had a really cool entrepreneur
from Senegal, Africa, but the one thing I haven’t had on is a conservative cowboy. (laughing) And I figure if I can
normalize the rest of us, – There you go.
– Maybe we could even give a shout-out to flyover country and see if there’s even common ground with someone as crazy as you. – Yeah, absolutely. – So that’s what we’re setting out to do today.
– I figure I fit in good in D.C. in this colorful coat. I’m not all black and gray. – Did you pay for that? (laughing) – Not even at Goodwill. (laughing) I said I want that, I
want it just like that. – So let’s assume that my audience doesn’t know much about you. You’re a comedian, humorist? What would you call yourself? – I’ve never thought of
myself as a true comic or comedian because I’m not a joke teller, I’m a storyteller, always have been. So I’m 46 years old now, and
I’ve always been fascinated by this lost art and
concept of being a humorist. And so I go back to some
of the great writers of the past and then even some
of the great storytellers. And coming from the Deep South, Georgia, where I grew up, and went
to University of Georgia, it was still at a time in culture where storytelling was a thing. People passed down their, this
happened to uncle so-and-so. And so I mean, I can still
tell story after story of my crazy family. I tell people, I said I
had to get out of the, I jokingly say I had to get
out of the state of Georgia to escape the family business of meth. And I say I got a cousin that got arrested at a cat fight or at a
chicken fight, cock fight, for selling chicken salad sandwiches without a food permit. So we did some pretty
redneck stuff down there. But it was always about storytelling. How do you pass that
on, how do you tell it in a funnier way, more entertaining way? How do you hold people’s attention? And so that always fascinated me, and I was fortunate enough to get on radio and start doing that, and
then some television stuff. And then social media, virality. Once that came along, things went viral. I mean, we experienced about
two and a half billion views in two years on just me kind of giving my observational
thoughts about life. And for me, it was therapy
’cause I didn’t want to go see a therapist. I just figured I’ll just put this stuff out into the cyber world
and let them judge it. – See what happens?
– Yeah. So you get that quote,
unquote internet famous, which is a 21st century way
of saying you’re unemployed, you’re just real popular. – But it works, right?
– Yeah, and it’s been fun. We went on the road back
in the first of 2016 and I said well, let’s see
if we can sell tickets. And I just started renting places and then people start showing up. And so next thing you know, we’re represented out of Los
Angeles and we’re sitting with TBS, and ABC, and CBS,
and FOX, and all these guys. And you’re in and out of the news cycles with FOX News or CNN
and MSN over the years. So yeah, it’s just been
a weird little journey. – Yeah. Your Wikipedia page says that the one about Southern culture, I forget what it was called.
– Yeah. Unapologetically Southern. – Yeah, but that wasn’t by
any means the first one, but that one got you on
FOX & Friends, right? – Yeah, that was a big deal
that I didn’t even know happened because I had done that
video about six months prior to it taking off the way that it did on national notoriety. So it wasn’t one that was even on my radar because for me, like I said, it’s therapy. I post them and then forget about it. I’ll have radio interviews
or TV interviews who will say now let’s talk
about this video you did about Depends undergarments. And I was like I have no clue. I have zero recollection of
discussing Depends undergarments with the world at large. So I put them out there
and forget about them. And so they called me up. I was on my way down to Conroe, Texas to work at an event, speak at an event. And anyway, FOX & Friends,
they said can you be back in the studio? So my wife and I, we were
thrilled, we were excited because we’ve never had
that kind of notoriety on that level to do that. And so we got up at two
o’clock in the morning to drive back to be back
in a studio in Dallas. And so that was the first thing. But I really, honestly had no idea of the recognition and
notoriety that thing was getting and what it resonated inside people who kind of felt forgotten. You mentioned flyover
states, and it’s just folks who felt less than and
misrepresented and unheard. And so it kind of launched us on a career of being able to say the things that people wanna say, but
don’t feel like they can say. – You probably tapped
into that frustration long before Donald Trump did
because in one of the early shows we did was a guy from
Reason named Robby Soave, and he’s been trying to
understand intersectionality. And I didn’t understand
it at all before he, and he spent a lot of
time on college campus. And he’s trying to explain
to me all these silos and they’re ranked so that
some sexual preference or some skin color, some
religion, or some ethnicity is ranked higher than
another one in this inner web of intersectionality ranks people. But the one, clearly the one
category that doesn’t count or maybe you actually get negative points would be to be white, Southern, cowboy. That’s three check marks against you. – It really is, and I go even further. I’ve said that if you’re a heterosexual white Christian male, even
more so because there’s, I mean, my gosh, University
of Kansas is teaching courses now on angry white men. It’s become a thing. So I came out of, and
lived in, and still live in the equestrian world. A lot of horses in my life. And that was, Western cultural lifestyle was part of my life. I was probably way overeducated
for what I was doing, and so it was funny. I said I’m gonna just be me. And a funny story. When I started all this
stuff and kind of went into what I call the entertainment business. I called my wife. I was at the gym one day. I was not in the gym, I was at the gym. So there’s a huge difference in that. I was just out in the parking lot, right? – Yeah.
– Called her on the phone. I said I’m gonna go make a
living just being myself. And she said well, what’s the street value on your personality? You’re leaving a good job to do what? And I said we’ll see. I stepped out into nothing. But yeah, I think it was, I
said I’m just gonna go out and be myself. And I think that genuine nature
of being able to just go out and say what people, again,
what they didn’t feel like they could hear. So I had several people who said well, you get a lot further if you
would take the cowboy hat off because that’s such a
misnomer and an antiquated kind of thing, or people look at it and they immediately judge it. And I was like no,
that’s what I want to be. I want to be known as that white guy with a Southern accent
who sits in his truck, and sometimes his dog’s in the backseat. And let’s see if people will
get caught up in the veneer or if they’ll actually
listen to what I’m saying. And so I’ve tried to never
be a flamethrower, per se, slinging bullets and what
I’ve always wanted to do is just start a conversation with people, get them talking. Unfortunately with social media, you know what happens when
people get to talking. They start the fighting. And now me personally, my depraved side actually enjoys it, and
so don’t get me wrong. There’s nothing better
than stirring that shit up. – So you like triggering people? – Well, yeah, but not
in, what I’m hoping to do is say okay, look, here is a way to take what
I think is common sense. We’re gonna wrap it in humor,
a little tongue in cheek, make a little easier pill to swallow. Now how are you gonna digest it? And it’s funny. Most people, I think, over the years have digested it pretty well. They come back and they’re like, I mean, we’ve created a dadgum fan
base out of this thing. And so then on the other
side, you have people who just can’t handle
anyone looking at them and saying this is what I think is right, or this is what I believe
because they feel like they’re almost being bullied because there’s that sense of dogmatism. How dare you tell me
something so concrete, or black and white, or
that you really believe that with conviction when everything should be all about, should be postmodern. It should be what I feel about it, and what the flow of
the day is right there, how many of these I’ve had. But dogmatism has been lost, at least the ability to
hear it and think about it. I think dogma, the ability
to just be dogmatic and receive something from
a dogmatic perspective has been lost. That’s why people get triggered. – Well, I wanna test your dogmatism – Oh, boy!
– And see how strident you are, in fact. And I’ve never done this on camera, but I’m gonna come out of the closet here. I live a very weird lifestyle. I’ve been married for 33 years. I’m heterosexual, I’m monogamous, and I realize that’s super weird. And I hope saying this in public that people aren’t super offended by that. But I’m not judging them, so hopefully they’ll let me be that guy. – Well, and that’s exactly right. I like to– – Oh, and I’m white, but
that should be obvious. I don’t know.
– Exactly. You’re all those same things. But I think that people look
at that, and you’re right. Intersectionality, because I looked at it, and I’ve listened to things. It’s like trying to take
a sip from a fire hydrant some times, trying to pick at where people are standing on these things, these issues and these topics because again,
what I think postmodernism brought us is this way
of being able to define and redefine things at will. And well, this is what it means to me, and the idea of absolute truth is gone. And who we hear it from has
to be the right vehicle, it has to be the right voice, it has to be the right tone, accent. It has to be the right softness. It has to be all the, it has to be from the right skin tone. What’s the vessel that’s
delivering this thing? And you want to get frustrated, but we’ve got to find a
way to come back to a place of knowing one another,
a sense of community, discussing, debating,
dialoguing on these things regardless of where people are coming from without a sense of offendedness from it. But I think that we have
never felt a plight. I don’t think that, especially
younger generations, and I consider myself still
in that at 46, under me. And the Millennials, I think,
get a bad wrap in some ways. Some they deserve, and
then this Generation Z, there’s some hope there. Most of my kids reside in that
generation, so I’m hoping. But by and large, we haven’t suffered any. We haven’t had any pain. And therefore, we have
to, I think the human soul cries out for a plight. And we want something that identifies us as this is what’s been done
to me, this is what’s wrong. And really, we can’t point to anything as 21st century Americans. Yeah, we can say 9/11, but that happened to a city of 10 million and over in D.C. But the guy in Nebraska– – But even young people don’t remember that anymore.
– Yeah. It’s not like daily we’re
dealing with somebody lobbing, or driving a red Datsun and
it’s rigged with explosives. We’re not dealing with things like that. – Yeah, yeah. – It’s, do I want to use
Amazon or go to the store and get what I need? – Those are tough decisions.
– They really are. They really are, and now
my wife is wanting me to use the drone and
everything, the Amazon. She’s like, we got the Alexa. She’s like, screw our invasion of privacy. I don’t care. I need my Amazon.
– Yeah, see, I’m a paranoid libertarian. There’ll be no drone
deliveries to my house. – Yeah, I want to shoot it out of the sky. No, I’m somewhat of a Luddite when it comes to that type of thing. But no, I think that’s where we are. So to the point that we
referred to a little while ago to comedy, what makes it
impossible these days, virtually impossible to come out and just be a brazen comedian and say part of the job description
is to mock and ridicule. That does not mean that I dislike you or disagree with you. I just want to point a light at some of the dark crevices of life. I believe stereotypes exist for a reason. They are grounded in general facts. They’re grounded in
general consensus facts. And so it’s okay, but see, these days we can’t stereotype anybody. Well, it’s funny to stereotype people. I mean, we talk about people watching. What the hell do you
think people watching is? People watching is sitting in an airport and stereotyping people. We get entertainment out of that. I mean, how many times
do we ever say that? When somebody says well, I
just want to go to the mall. I just enjoy it for the people watching. What a bigot. You just said you want
to go stereotype people. – You monster!
– You’re an asshole! So that’s kind of my thing,
is I look at these people and I say, we’re just repackaging what we’ve always complained about. So no, I think in the job description you’ve got to be able to mock, ridicule. And that’s why I tell people. I say look, okay, I’m
gonna say some things, and yes, I admit I say things wrong. I have foot in mouth disease,
but I’m still gonna say it because I don’t know, since
humor is so subjective, I don’t know if you’re
gonna like this or not. I’m at least gonna show you the edge. I won’t push you over
it, but when I meet you I wanna see how far I can take you just to see where our relationship
can go with each other, and that’s whether it’s
one-on-one or an audience. And so I push the envelope a little bit because if I don’t find out, I don’t know. And as a guy who wants to
take people on that journey because I think we can learn from things when we’re enjoying them
and entertained by them, and they stick with us. But these days, people are, that it’s so, I just apologize, right? I mean, I tell ’em right up
front I’m not apologizing. I’m gonna make fun of you. I don’t care if you’re white or black, fat, skinny, tall, short,
male, female, gay, straight. None of that matters. We’re gonna poke fun at everyone. The deal is we’re not ridiculing. That’s the difference. You’re not ridiculing,
you’re not mocking someone. You’re just looking at
their life and saying oh, are you like this? Really, is this the way we are? And that’s kind of where we are, but people feel offended because they don’t want that searchlight turned on them anymore. – Yeah, but a lot of your stuff’s, the first victim of
your humor is yourself. – Yeah, you gotta be self-deprecating. – Yeah, you’re pretty tough on yourself, and you should be. – Yeah (laughing).
– You should be ’cause– – Trust me,
– Clearly. – There’s a long line of jokes here. Yeah, my family tree
was a brush pile, man. I gotta be honest. But I do believe in being self-deprecating because I want humor that makes a point, but they will say for every
finger I’m pointing at you, I’ve got three pointing back at me. And I’ve always lived with that. Had I enjoyed the
success that I’ve enjoyed over the last few years
say, at the age of 23 or 24, I could have ruined me. But thankfully, after having
gone through a divorce and a very broken situation in life, and trying to decide do
you just quit on life or do you pull yourself back up? I pulled myself back
up and kind of created a life out of it. And the success began with
me around 40, 41 years old after I’d had those experiences, and I could put a little
more in perspective. Now for me, I had no plan whatsoever to get into, say, politics. I was gonna avoid two things,
politics and current events because current events,
they go away too fast. Now I’m making all my money off of current events and politics, so. – And then some of the hate that comes with that.
– Yeah. – But, so I think all the
way back to Lenny Bruce, and we could go back further, my theory about comedy,
particularly in America. So I consider America to be
an incredibly tolerant place. – Right, I agree.
– And we figure out a way for people of all different
stripes to get together. And comedy was that place
where we could poke fun at each other as a way of
sort of opening the door to a broader conversation
and understanding. Like if you tell a good Italian joke, in part what you’re doing is normalizing and humanizing Italians.
– Exactly. – Right?
– Yeah. – And we can’t do that anymore. You can’t say anything
that offends anybody, and how does comedy function
if it’s not offensive? – Yeah, and that’s the part, that’s the problem these days. And I think it’s evidenced in
a lot of our comedy specials we see, and especially those that tend toward the political side of humor or are late night talk shows. They’re much more interested in applause than they are laughter. So it’s almost can I motivate
you to feel the way I feel, which again, we’re back to
that esoteric experience of a crowd who’s in there, yeah, this guy is saying what I want him to say and he’s saying what I’d like
to say, but I don’t know how versus damn, he just told
my mother to hide her purse ’cause there was a black
guy coming on stage. You know what I’m saying? We can’t do jokes like that anymore. Redd Foxx can’t get on stage
well, one, ’cause he’s dead, but a guy like that can’t go
on and talk about having sex with fat women. Redd Foxx used to say, y’all
knew what you were doing when you came in here. It says triple X on the marquee. You knew what you were getting. Lenny Bruce and George Carlin,
they were arrested for this. They were arrested for
this type of free speech, to be able to go out and say hey. And you go back to Carlin’s old bit then of what, the seven main
words you can’t say on TV, and the vulgarity things. And then you go back to Lenny Bruce who, Lenny Bruce would seem completely benign to most of us today. But here he is in the
’50s doing what he’s doing and going to jail almost
nightly for it. To today, now I have a theory on some of this. Today, pretty hard pressed
to find an insult comic on par with a Don Rickles. Brad Garrett is pretty
good one who does that. I’ve always been interested when Brad, people see Brad on a live show and they think they’re going to see Robbie from Everybody Loves Raymond. And he’s in there telling
her about her cankles and I mean, just really going after ’em. And they’re like mm,
that’s not Robbie at all. He’s giving ’em the middle finger. So people have a hard
time with stuff like that. But then I see others on the other side who are out there who are
really pushing the envelope, really getting there. And my theory is, and I took this from my comedian friend, Tyson Faifer, we talked about it a lot. I think a lot of those guys
were kind of grandfathered in before everybody got so damn sensitive. They were already doing those jokes and we loved them for it. So now it’s like Daniel Tosh, okay. He gets a pass because
he’s always been that way. Does he still piss people off? Yeah, because they’re so sensitive. But God, they’re sensitive. When Jerry Seinfeld, who
is so benign in his comedy says he won’t go on a
college campus anymore because people get so offended, I mean, that’s just ridiculous. – Yeah, we’ve gone back. The SJWs have gone back
in and psychoanalyzed every episode of Seinfeld, and every one is problematic now. – Exactly! Well, I was watching a
clip from one the other day and I was like, that
just wouldn’t fly today. It just wouldn’t fly. So yeah, that’s why I say right up front. I’ve had times where I’ve come out wearing the vagina hats. I talk about, I get onstage and talk about how men need to
have a foreskin rally. We can all wear turtlenecks
and it will look funny on the bald-headed guys,
and stuff like that. I think we should really get
some big skin-colored tubes and wear and ’em on our
heads and stuff like that. And I tell women I’m not scared of you. You can complain all you want to complain. I’ve never done a show where
somebody didn’t send me a message, who took the
time to share a message and say, we were disappointed
in the show last night. You talked about your penis. Well yeah, I had a vasectomy. I wanted to talk about my penis. I didn’t say my dick. Now sometimes I will
transition over and I’ll say well, speaking of little
orange pricks, Donald Trump. And so you’ll do stuff like
that, and people are like, oh no, I thought we were coming to a, and so it just depends on how it hits me, but I’m not gonna apologize for it. And I’ll say look, I got a
mother-in-law, I got a mother, I got a wife, and three daughters. There’s so much estrogen in my household that I’m in cycle with
them, so I’m not scared of any of you women, none of you. (laughing) So Andrew Heaton, who has
Something’s Off with Andrew Heaton on BlazeTV and Blaze Media Podcast, whenever we’ve done shows together, it makes him very uncomfortable. – Did he place? Did he pay you to place– (Chad laughing) – Yeah, I know, right? We had lunch yesterday after some stuff, and I said I really do
make you uncomfortable. He goes yeah, yeah. He said, “But I’m like tall tree. “It doesn’t take much to push me over.” – Well, he’s like a woke libertarian. But we should actually just pick on him for a minute.
– Yeah. We really should. I mean, we did a recent, from my podcast, we did some recent short episodes called Highballs with
Heaton where we’d pour a cocktail whiskey, and
then we’ll draw a topic out of the hat and see
if we agree or disagree. We’ll talk about the whiskey
for four or five minutes and then 10 minutes we’ll debate. And so we can get about
three of episodes in, we’re pretty hammered. (laughing) But no, he comes in wearing a, I’m obviously in the cowboy hat, so he comes in wearing the
top hat and the waistcoat. And I mean, the guy went
into a baseball game the other day. Heaton, he goes to the pro ballgame, the Texas Rangers game
wearing his tie, and his coat, and his waistcoat, and the whole thing. – Did he get his ass kicked? – He probably should have. He could probably run away, though. He’ll tell ya right up
front, he ain’t fighting. – No, he’s running. Well, he might use some sort of, he might quote a libertarian economist about the nonaggression
principle as to why you shouldn’t punch him
at a ballgame, but– – Well, the thing that pisses me off is when I start agreeing with him. He’ll say some things and I’m like, I just don’t have the energy
to disagree right now. – Yeah, yeah.
(laughing) – I mean, my convictions
say otherwise, Andrew, but I just don’t have
the energy right now. – But that, you used
the word conservatarian. And I’m not wild, I know exact. I have a lot of conservatarian friends. I might actually qualify, as
I understand the term myself, but it’s a made up word
based on a made up word because libertarian is a made up word. It used to be that liberal
was the word that we would use because liberal meant free, but the progressives
destroyed the word progressive in the ’30s and ’40s, so
then they stole our word, and then they started being liberals. So none of these words make any sense. And even conservative anymore, is it Trump nationalism conservatism? Is it fiscal responsibility, Constitutionally limited
government conservatism? I don’t even know what that stuff is, but I think the fact
that we had to come up with a word like conservatarian, I think, shows that we libertarians
have done a very good, very poor job representing what I would consider libertarian values. Because part of it is just tolerance, not acceptance, but tolerance. Like you’re kind of weird. You’re from Texas. I don’t understand it exactly,
but I’m okay with that as long as you don’t
hurt me or take my stuff. To me, that’s the entire
libertarian ethos. And you were conceived in
Texas, but born in New Jersey. – Born in New Jersey, yeah. Yeah, the first four months of my life. – That’s a burden you’re gonna have to– – Forever, because I’ve got nonstop, people are saying, well, what does this guy know about anything? Texas, my ass. He was born in New Jersey. He grew up in New Jersey. I’m like no, I didn’t
grow up in New Jersey. This just happened to
be where my mother was when she went into labor. And so anyway, grew up
in Augusta, Georgia. And yeah, I come from that. That’s why I think, for me, I came back. And I’m unapologetic about what I am, so hence the Unapologetically Southern. I can only speak in the
accent I’ve been given. Now granted, over the years,
being on the microphone and on camera, I’ve tried
to mute a lot of that. And for somebody from the
South, I talk pretty fast. But back to your point. I’ve always looked at myself. I’ve never declared with
any political party, ever. And so a lot of people
assume that I’m a Republican, and I’m not. I’m not a registered anything, and I’ve always thought of myself as a little more as libertarian. And then like you said, you’ve
got all of these addendums to the description. And then you start sitting
back and going okay, so now how do I want to label myself? Because I’ve always
been careful with labels first of all, because with
labels, and it doesn’t matter what it is, good or
bad, if I can label you, then I can put you in my mental box. And I could take that box
and put it on the shelf, and whenever Matt Kibbe’s
name comes up, I’ll say oh, now I remember the label. I don’t wanna deal with that label today. I don’t wanna take that box down today. And so yeah, I’m with you on that. I’ve just tried to keep it as
simple as I possibly could, and just put it in layman’s
terms and to say don’t hurt me and don’t take my stuff
is a pretty basic thing. I catch a little flack
because I am pro-life. I’m vocally pro-life. I’m very defensive pro-life,
but I’ve had people who say well, I have to go
back to what I said originally. You can’t legislate morality. If somebody is going to do
that, they’re going to do that. It’s just like suicide’s illegal, but if somebody’s gonna do
it, they’re gonna do it. All I can do is support that person. – Same with drug abuse. – Same with drug abuse. If a person’s gonna do it, they’re gonna do it.
– Same with eating too many Cheetos.
– Yeah. Well, I remember when– – I’m talking to you, Logan. (Chad laughing) – I remember when Howard,
oh, Charles Spurgeon met, oh gosh, was it? It was Winston Churchill,
and Spurgeon walked up to Winston Churchill. Spurgeon was the pastor
of that huge church, that tabernacle there in London. And he walked up to Churchill
and he looked at his cigar and said, “That, sir, offends me.” And Churchill took his finger
and stuck it in his fat gut and said, “That, sir, offends me.” So it’s one of those let’s
pick what I don’t like about, let’s pick your sin and focus on that. But you’re right, I don’t care
how fat Charles Spurgeon is. Again, I’m back to people watching. (Chad laughing) – And this, to me, is sort
of the libertarian ethos is like it’s okay to pick
on friends and neighbors about things, decisions they
make that you don’t make. You own a dog, and I think
that’s morally wrong. I think dogs are communists. They’re constantly begging for a handout. – You’ve got a problem, Kibbe. (Chad laughing) – But that’s your lifestyle choice. – This is good stuff. I’m drinking more of it. You keep telling me all your nonsense. – Yeah, so I’ll test this theory on you. I think I can bring you around. I think you’re gonna put
your dog up for adoption and replace it with a
bunch of cats because– – I’d be ruined. – ‘Cause I don’t know if you can put a cat in the back of your pickup, but– – Not without injury. – But cats are self-sufficient. They probably don’t really
give a damn about you, and that, to me, is the libertarian ethos. – I don’t know if you saw it,
and it might be an old one. I just saw it this past week
where the cat is hanging in the blinds, the mini
blinds of the house and he can’t get out. And he says I know I’ve
been an asshole to you most of my life, but I
really need some help. That is such a cat. Yeah. No, we’ve always had the dogs. We always had cats,
but we always had barns and things like that for the
cats to go do what cats do, and kill mice, and just go out there and be assholes on their own
general terms with each other. I decided on my second anniversary to buy my wife a kitten. My wife has never had a cat. She never expressed any
desire to ever have a cat. She didn’t want to own a cat. She had told me numerous
times, numerous times, do not ever bring home a cat. Unless it’s a barn cat, do not bring home, there will be no cat living in the house. So on our second anniversary, which is the cotton anniversary, I decided to pick up a kitten
that was soft like cotton. And I named it Cotton,
and I brought it home. So, what’s she gonna do
now she’s got a cat, right? So that went on for about a year, all of the scrapes, and
scratches, and the claw marks all over the– – They will tear your house down, yeah. – Yeah, the doors. I mean, just tearing things apart and taking control of the three dogs. I mean, because she owned the place. But she would like to go out with the dogs for about an hour, 45 minutes to an hour. And she’d just hang out
in the yard with ’em, and then she’s ready
to come back in, right? – Yeah.
– And so one day my wife, she let her out. She was kind of scratching at the door, wanting to go out and hang with the dogs. And 24 hours passed, and my
wife said where’s the cat? And I said, did you ever let her back in? No, we never saw the cat again. So I learned my lesson on that. No more cats. – Do we think this cat got out alive or do we just not want to talk about it? – I think probably so. I think that cat’s
probably living the dream at the one of the neighborhood houses ’cause it was a pretty good cat. – Yeah.
– Yeah. But again, what do people say? It’s a cat that acts like a dog. – Right.
– Yeah. That’s the characterization right there. – Well, that just means that the cat’s not trying to kill you. (Chad laughing) – They are fun to watch, though. They say they lower your
blood pressure, regardless. – But I’m here to help you. You’ve come up with this
sort of contrived term, conservatarian, to try
to fit into a spectrum that doesn’t even make any sense. But I wanna use language
that you can understand, so I’m gonna use country
music to try to convince you that you’re libertarian. – All right.
– The first is Lyle Lovett. You’re not from Texas, but
Texas wants you anyway. To me, that’s a live
and let live attitude. I mean, it’s sort of arrogant. Texans think they’re
just a little bit better than the rest of us, but it’s okay. – [Chad] It’s a humble arrogance. – You can come here anyway. Probably a more important
one is Mama Tried because I think the values
that define libertarianism, I wrote a whole book on it, which I happen to have here. I’m flacking my book today. Don’t Hurt People and
Don’t Take Their Stuff. Where did I get that from? I stole it from your mom, and
she stole it from her mom. And there’s these basic
values that are fundamentally libertarian that moms teach
their kids from day one. Don’t hurt people, don’t take their stuff, get a job, mind your own business. All of these things are the things that I would consider
quintessentially American, right? – [Chad] Right. – Are they conservative? Maybe. Are they the same things that
liberal moms teach their kid? Probably. They’re just American,
they’re just common sense. Would you buy that? – Yeah. Again, I got back to what
I was saying earlier, I think, to the degree
that you can keep it as simple as possible. I think that’s where it’s right. For instance, we’ve
used the adage of a bird with two healthy wings. And you got a right wing,
you got a left wing, and you kinda want to get
in on the body of the bird. I think we make a little too complex of where on the wing we
sit when really and truly, common sense makes a huge
difference if you just apply it. – For some reason, when
you had me on your show, I made it not simple at all. You asked me about socialism,
and I started quoting Austrian economists and very
much freaking out your cohorts. – Oh, well, yeah. – What’s that guy’s name? – Party Foul Steve, yeah. – He was–
– He was out. He was dead to the world. – Yeah, I think he might
have actually taken a nap. – He said I don’t have a
clue what he’s talking about. That’s why I asked him. I said you read much Friedrich Hayek? And he’s, no! (laughing) We don’t keep him around
for the book smarts. – Yeah. (laughing) – But no, you go back to– – Now there’s tolerance right there. – Well exactly. Exactly.
– It’s sort of a special needs situation.
– Yeah, very special needs. We’ve got to talk in
very, very small words when it comes to Party
Foul, but he knows that. That’s the beauty. That’s the beauty of him. He can take it. But you know, hey, look. Jesus said do unto others
as you’d have done unto you. I think that’s pretty libertarian. That’s pretty cut and
dry and pretty simple. I’ve always looked again to that. And we think that we can tell
someone okay, don’t do this. Don’t do that, don’t do this,
don’t do that, don’t do this. Whether it’s government,
whether it’s religion, whether it is whatever civil
organization you may be in, well, we’re not gonna do this,
and we’re not gonna do this. And I find that when you
keep pointing at things, that tends to be where people look and that’s what they focus on. And I think that rather
than pointing at freedom and liberty that we have,
and having that conversation, and pointing to what, ’cause I think that was what I asked you when we started with that
podcast on my episode was do you think we’re free? Do you think we really have liberty? Because I think there’s a lot of people who are disenchanted
out there with America and thinking well, we
don’t really have freedom. But as a guy who spent 20
years in third world countries where you have to get your papers checked every time you cross a
border, or there’s a guy with an M16 who’s holding you up, and may or may not let you through this one little pass gate
or something like that, you start to realize the difference between what I think is freedom versus what I think is liberty. And I think they are two different things. I may be free or not
free to do certain things in this country, but regardless,
I still have liberty. – Yeah. You mentioned earlier young
people in this country don’t know what government
oppression is all about. I just got back from Belgrade, Serbia, speaking to about 800
libertarian-ish kids. And I’ve spoken in the
country of the Georgia, Tbilisi, Georgia, all over Eastern Europe. And the difference between them and us is that they have an uncle or a mom, somebody was killed by the
government not so long ago. It’s part of their family
history, they know those stories. And they were largely
oppressed for doing things like speaking their mind,
like trying to run a business, and things that we just
take for granted here. So I do think that part of our challenge is just getting people to know that we have both
freedom and liberty here. We’re pretty much free
to think what we want and do what we want. There’s lots of things
that the government’s doing that it shouldn’t do that oppresses that, but generally we’re free to do that. And I think one of the
things that libertarians have failed at is drawing
a very clear distinction between a House committee
vote on five to four that decides that you can’t do this versus a church, or a community, or a civic organization, or a family that’s saying there’s
limits to your behavior, and it’s based on what
your mom taught you. And those are very important
social institutions, but they’re not implemented
at the point of a gun. – Right.
– And that’s what holds civil society together. And libertarians spend so much time talking about individualism
and I want to be myself, leave me alone, that we
forget to say that the bounds of liberty is held together
by these civil institutions that have worked for
hundreds, thousands of years. – Right. Yeah, and I almost see that
people really want to try to come to a place where they are, where are fences, where
are the boundaries? How far can I go before I’m in trouble? Where is the limit there? How free am I? I think if we realize how
free we are supposed to be and designed to be, it’s dangerous. It’s deadly because
powers don’t like that. The control factions really
don’t like a free people, a truly free people. And so I think they
spend time exacerbating the emphasis of the
fences and the boundaries that we focus on those so
much that we don’t realize hey, there’s a pretty big
pasture for us to graze in and do the things that we like until you start instituting
people who want to make the fences smaller. And I think that’s what we have, and I think that’s what a lot
of people are frustrated with on both sides, regardless
of the political spectrum. – Well, and I would emphasize both sides. I feel like our current politics is kind of a tribal war
between two sets of people who have different sets of
values, different geography, maybe different skin color. I don’t know. But if the idea of
politics is to make sure that we control the
presidency, and make sure that we control Congress
so that we can impose our way of living on the other guys, to me, that’s tyranny. To me, that’s a recipe for tearing apart what makes America America,
and I really don’t like that, which is one of the reasons I
emphasize my libertarianism. I don’t belong to team
red or blue anymore. I’m like, I would love
to live and let live. – Well, I think that’s where, I think that’s my personal
opinion and conviction, is that’s where we all have
to come to, one way or another because I don’t wanna
live out on the wings. I flew here last night on a plane. I didn’t fly on the wings. That doesn’t mean I’m a
centrist, or a moderate, or I’m in the middle of
the road on everything. I have convictions and opinions
on how things should be. You take my kids. I tell people I’ve got five kids. They’re doing well. Two of ’em off at university
settings doing great, which can be a little scary sometimes. But people say how, why did your kids, how did they come out so, they’re smart, they’re individuals, they do their own things. One did ballet and
another one is published. Another one builds computers
and has an engineering mind. We never pushed ’em to conform. We never pushed ’em. I played baseball. If they didn’t want to play baseball, don’t want to play
sports, don’t play sports. You find you. And so I said, I tell people. I said well, it wasn’t a matter for me of trying to teach my
kids right from wrong. I wanted to teach them a value system. So if they learned a value system, then they would learn what
would be good for them and what would be bad for them. Now what was good for one
might not have been good for another one, but they’re individuals. And so it was up to them to interpret their personal circumstance,
situation, and conviction of what they value. And then yes, if you value
not drinking and driving, you’re gonna say no to
drinking and driving. You’re not gonna go do it,
but you’ve got to value that. It can’t just be well, that’s wrong and I don’t want to do it. And I think some of that has come into American politics today, is I’ve got to do this, I need to do that because someone has told me that I’ve got to tow a party line, and I don’t believe in that at all. I think we’ve got to come into that place where you say look, I got
a conviction about this, but I’m not gonna try to
cram it down your throat because that’s always been my issue, which is always why I’ve identified more libertarian than anything else. Because I’ve said look,
I don’t care what you do. I don’t care who you sleep
with, I really don’t. As long as you’re not creating victims through your actions, which
is ultimately criminal, or trying to get me to do it through some form of legislation, I don’t care what you do. And so there is that element of people feel like they have to
be a part of a party, they have to be part of
a community that belongs. I hate that we’ve lost the
idea of critical thinking an the ability to take some diametrical, differing things that
tend to come together and make ’em work. I’ll go out and do these comedy shows and I’ll riff on Donald Trump. Why not? I mean, my God.
– You can’t not at some point.
– I mean, why not? You know?
– Yeah. – And I’ll have people go, oh! And I’ll go ah, don’t oh me. You know I’m telling the truth. But the problem is
you’ve gotten so blinded by towing the line and walking the fence that you can’t even come
out and think critically about what I’m telling you
from a humorist perspective. It’s true, and it is funny. You feel dirty by laughing at it because you have so aligned yourself with a certain party or a
certain way of thinking. So this whole Trump phenomenon at times took me by surprise. Back during the primaries in ’16, I said I feel like we’re trying to pick which venereal disease
we’re okay living with for the next four to eight
years, and then here we come. You got–
– By the way, that’s the definition of
presidential politics. – That’s what it is. So I was getting a tire
replaced on my truck one day, and this old guy pulls up in his red Mercedes convertible. And he says, he just
gets out, total stranger, and he goes, who are you voting for? And I said well, I’m trying to decide. He goes, let me tell you
who’s gonna change it and do it all right. It’s gonna be good, and
this is the guy right here, and he points at his Trump bumper sticker. And at the time I was
like come on, come on. But I had no idea the faction
that exists out there. I mean, some of these people are rabid. Like my mother, there’s two men in history that you don’t mess with. One’s Jesus and the other’s Donald Trump. She loves him. – Usually in that order.
– In that order. You hope, anyway. But no, yeah, that’s pretty much it. My mother, whenever I’ve been on FOX News, she’s like, don’t you say
anything bad about the president. You know he watches. (Chad laughing) – I was, and I told you
this, I was a Rand Paul guy and I was working at
a Rand Paul super PAC, and I actually spoke on Rand Paul’s behalf at the Iowa Caucuses, and that was the day that I learned that the Trump phenomenon was far more deeply
rooted than I appreciated. And I think it gets back
to cultural identity. And it’s odd that a
billionaire who’s Trump is the standard bearer for flyover country or whatever we call that, conservative– – Yeah, here’s a guy who’s a playboy billionaire real estate mogul from Queens who is odd to look at, comes from an eccentric past and parents. The most rapped about
man in music history. He’s got all the women,
he’s got the wives, he’s got the riches,
the towers, the houses, and all this stuff. And you’re telling me that Earl that works on transmissions
out in Lincoln, Nebraska is identifying with this man and is saying he’s going to be our champion. He’s the guy that we’re gonna get behind. I don’t care how many Ps he’s grabbed, I don’t care how many wives he’s had, how many times he’s cheated. I don’t care if he paid
off a hooker for $135,000. I don’t care. He’s my guy. That’s weird to me. That’s weird to me. I get it, but there’s no logic that makes me be able to explain it in a way that others who don’t get it are going to understand. I can’t give you an aha moment, not about this situation. I just can’t. – I mean, I didn’t honestly
understand it, even that day because I had been a Tea Party organizer, and I thought we were building up to this idea that someone like Rand Paul, but there were other guys. There was Ted Cruz, and Scott Walker, and other interesting Tea Party elected officials in
that presidential field. But I think it goes back to the success of your YouTube video,
Unapologetically Southern. People were feeling like their way of living was disrespected. And one of the very first
things that candidate Trump did is he went to the National
Tea Party Convention and he said, Washington
doesn’t respect you guys. Go back. He’s like, these people
don’t give a damn about you. And he filled that void for people. Maybe it’s real, maybe it’s not, but they feel like they didn’t have a home in our national politics, particularly in this tribal warfare where one side has to
defeat the other side. And so they chose a
fighter, and I don’t think they care anything
about his personal life. – Yeah. I really don’t think they do, and there’s numerous
examples throughout history that I could point to, but
we’ve done ’em ad infinitum, ad nauseum, and just
look at what we’ve got. He comes in and he says
I’m gonna drain the swamp. Well, no one’s ever trusted politicians. That’s their pastime. We don’t trust politicians;
they’re not trustworthy. So he kind of went deep
into that inner soul area where people always said
I don’t trust anything going of in Washington, D.C. And he said well, we’re gonna drain it. We’re gonna get rid of all that stuff. Now me, I heard that and
I thought okay, sure. I mean, it’s a pretty deep
abyss in Washington, D.C. – Well, I heard it as complete bullshit but ’cause most politicians
promise they’re gonna come in and clean things up.
– Yeah, sure, sure. – And it never really works out that way. – No.
– And I’m still not sure that it’s not bullshit,
but I hope for America. – Well, I mean, to the degree we continue to see the bullshit,
I think it’s bullshit. I mean, it’s still there. If you could smell it, it’s still there. Good God, if you can’t look
around yourself right now circumstantially in our government and say well, this stinks. It’s pretty bad. – It’s the essence of it. – Maybe as it drains, you’ve got to smell that rotten stuff down on the bottom. But I watched that whole
thing and I was like okay, this is the weirdest time in history that I’ve ever seen. And I asked myself why. Why can’t this guy go in there
and do what he’s gonna do? But see, now I have this philosophy and I’d love to get your
perspective on this. So, I have this idea
as I’ve watched things is I almost don’t even
feel like Donald Trump is real far right. I think he’s kind of left to center in his heart, in his conviction. – And that’s his history for sure. – Yeah, that’s his
history, but I kind of feel like okay, this guy’s gonna make, now his rhetoric is one thing. The tweeting is a laser pointer to cats. They’re running all over,
trying to catch what he’s doing. And I can see Don at three
o’clock in the morning with the white eyes,
and the fresh spray tan, and the bikini lines and stuff sitting on the toilet, tweeting. – I don’t want to see that. – Crazy Chuck Grassley. Well, that’s what I love
about that Salon.com Magazine that said that people are
getting sex counseling because they feel like Donald Trump’s messing up their sex life. If you’re thinking about Donald Trump while you’re having sex, man,
you got deep, deep problems that need therapy. But no, I–
– Don’t even plant that seed. – Don’t even put that in there. – Don’t do it. – Oop! I said, but I–
– See? It’s even messing up you right now. – I know, exactly. I got to pull it back. I was thinking Melania,
Melania, Melania, Melania, get me back on track. I’m heterosexual too, Kibbe, and breathing with red blood. But I’ve said, but I think the guy, they have to villainize him to the point of making him a right wing extremist. And now we’re seeing the
Left and all these folks declaring now to run in 2020. They’ve gone off the
reservation to the left, just talking the most crazy nonsense that they can because they have
to out-insanity each other. They have to out-Left each other, and I think Trump, to some degree, if he is indeed playing 4D chess, I think that’s been a pretty wise move. – Yeah. They’re looking at his
success and saying okay, identity really worked. Of course, he was
looking at Barack Obama’s identity politics and saying
you want to go identity? I’ll double down on that. But it’s not at all clear that the radical authoritarian left, like the ones that really want to tell you how to live, which I think
is a fairly new thing. – [Chad] I think it is, too. – I don’t think the Democratic
Party even five years ago was like that. I disagreed with a lot
that they stood for, but it wasn’t that sort of
authoritarian lifestyle thing. I’m not sure that politics is gonna work for the Democrats because
they will turn on themselves. And again, based on intersectionality, the big debate in Democratic
politics right now is whether or not a
white guy is acceptable, just because he’s a white guy. It doesn’t matter about anything else, and I’m not sure that
that’s the path to victory. There are white guys in
this country that vote. – A lot of ’em, a lot of ’em. And I go back to, I think it was Bernie who the other day said look, if the Democratic Party
doesn’t focus on more than just we wanna beat Trump, then we’re not gonna beat Trump. And then over the weekend,
Hillary Clinton came out with, I mean, who wants to take campaign advice from Hillary Clinton? But nonetheless, she did say look, there needs to be a
vision for the country. You need to know where
you’re wanting to go. There needs to be this
ability to say okay, this is what I value about America, and this is where I
think we need to get to. And we scoff at that
because of the source, but at the same time, what she’s saying is you gotta do more than just want to beat Donald Trump because–
– It’s probably a red flag that she’s the voice of reason. – A very, a very stiff, – But she made that–
– Strong wind blowing that red flag, yeah.
– She made that mistake. There’s this, I don’t know
how you categorize him, but I love his work. Jonathan Haidt has done a
lot on the conservative mind, the liberal mind, the libertarian mind. And he pointed out the
day after the election. He pulled Hillary’s first ad, the one that announced that
she was running for president. And it was a beautiful
rainbow of all these people from all these different parts of America, different identities,
different skin colors, different ethnicities,
and different religions. And the one thing that
wasn’t in that video was a white dude. And so she doubled down on identity thinking that that was
the path to victory, and Trump played her. So maybe she learned that lesson. I don’t know. – He definitely played her,
and that was what he played. And I think that’s what, in
the last couple of years, I think that is what has really, really pushed the identity politics of making the big, evil bad wolf, the angry white guy because they know that that’s the base
that Trump appealed to. Those folks who said
no, we’re tired of this. We’re gonna defend ourselves. We’re gonna have liberty at all costs, and we’re gonna take our factories back, and our car manufacturers back. And forget China, and we’re outta here. And we’re gonna make money, and why shouldn’t Wall Street be booming, and those kind of things. Well, let’s face it. The guy on the south side of Chicago who’s living in the streets, he’s not the guy who
worrying so much about what Walmart or what Wall
Street, rather, is doing. And so Trump definitely did do that. And there are people out there who, and so consequently
because they’re responsible for putting Trump, that big, and I say that the campaign
slogan for the Left is orange man bad. They’re the ones that are responsible, and so they must be villainized, they must be punished. How? I mean, we had no idea there was this much white nationalism in the country and racism. And who knew that everybody
was a member of the KKK? So suddenly everybody’s a Proud Boy or a tiki torch carrier, or whatever. We’re alt-right, and it’s
just gotten ludicrous on that. How do we come out of that? Can we come out of that? I don’t know if we can in the age of social media especially. – I don’t know. And I think I have to give a shout-out for us libertarians. I think the counter-revolution
is going to be tolerance. It’s going to be realizing
that if you take– – It’s true liberalism. – Yeah. If you take all of your
disputes to Washington where one side has to win and
the other side has to lose, there’s no up side to
that brand of politics because that’s not American. We actually believe that if
you live in New York City, you should choose, you choose that, and that’s a certain lifestyle. It’s not like Texas. It’s different. – Well, I look at this house. Okay, so the house you live in, old house. – Yeah.
– I imagine that for you to do anything here, there’s probably a historical society. There are laws, and zonings– – Oh, you can’t imagine.
– And I mean, it boggles the mind, I’m sure. If you wanted to renovate
something, tear down a wall, tear down a fence, rebuild a wall. And then you have neighbors around here. They’re equally, they have
homes from antiquity, basically. And so you guys have to come together and say okay, this has got to be done. Can we agree on this fence,
can we agree on this wall? Do I need to take it to the city council? Do I need to take it to the judge? Do I do that, or can we just say okay, this is what we can do. Now can we come together
and do this together? That’s how we live our everyday life. Why can’t we live that on a larger scale? – Voluntary cooperation,
neighbor to neighbor from the bottom up solving problems. No one’s gonna do it for you. Take a little bit of responsibility. It’s work to get everybody together, but that, to me, is the American ethos. And it’s pretty cool. We’ve done some great stuff that way. – I go back to when Katrina, Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, and it was nightmare, and
it was a FEMA nightmare. And people just couldn’t pull
themselves out of that thing, and people were displaced,
and they’re still displaced, and New Orleans still hasn’t recovered. And we’re talking about something
that was 14, 15 years ago. Then in 2009, a community
like Nashville, Tennessee gets hit with a flood that just wipes out their lower downtown
area with 20 foot waters and just devastated the city. But within a matter of two, three months, they’re back at it because
they pulled themselves up and said we’re going to
come in here together and not wait on a federal
government to send us the relief, and we’re
gonna get this thing done because it’s our community. And I think to the degree
that we can do that on any scale is when
we’re gonna be successful, because then your
cooperation and your growth is all grassroots. It’s word of mouth, it’s common. It’s loving your neighbor,
loving your neighbor as yourself. It’s walking an extra mile when you’re, you take that parable of the extra mile and Jesus talking about
if someone compels you to go a mile with them. Throughout the Roman Empire in those days, there were mile markers that, all those mile markers
lead to the center of Rome. And so any place that
was under Roman rule, they had a mile marker. You knew how far you
were at any given time from the city center of Rome. So here they were in Judah and Judea, and Jesus says hey, I’m
giving you a lesson from life because if one of these Roman centurions is walking with his pack or whatever and he sees a Jewish subject,
he can drop that pack and say hey, he can compel you. You gotta carry this. And so here’s a guy that
probably wants to not carry that for a mile,
and he had to be compelled to walk from one mile marker to the next. But what Jesus was saying
was, tell you what, why don’t you surprise
’em and keep walking, and don’t drop the pack. Go another mile. And that, in a selfish
society, in an instant society, where things almost move
at the speed of thought, we can send a text message
to a satellite in space that gets reconfigured in the air and gets sent back to yours
in a matter of instants. And yet we’re so spoiled. We haven’t experienced pain, we haven’t experienced
persecution, no oppression. The idea of loving somebody
else, serving somebody else or even going an extra mile
is, it’s a novel concept. But again, it’s true liberalism. It really is. That’s why I love it when people say well, Jesus was liberal. And I say well, it depends on
what you define a liberal as. You know?
– Yeah. – Was he a socialist? No, but he wasn’t here to
play political parties, ’cause he can offend all of ’em. – So you’re taking some of
these stories on the road. Are you still on the road
doing Star Spangled Banter? – Yeah, I am. We do about 95 shows a year where we’re probably gonna
switch things up here. I’ll probably continue Star
Spangled Banter through 2019 ’cause we’re starting to go back into a lot of the same cities and venues, ’cause I don’t do comedy clubs. I do theaters, and so we, on average, we’ll see 1,000 people to,
we’ve seen upwards of 3,500, which is, for a white dude
doing comedy in the 21st century is actually a pretty dang good crowd, – Particularly with that jacket. – Yeah, exactly. And so, this oozes
sexuality, really, Kibbe. And so I even got my name in it. Looky there. Boom! Look at that. Look at the inside of that. Isn’t that pretty? Bright. I’m feeling good. – I feel like you’re
disconnected from your roots. That’s pretty fancy, yeah. – You gotta get away, man. You gotta get away. Forget they know you. Change your name, all that stuff. But no, we do about 95, 100 shows a year. We have a blast all across the country. We’ll take off. We’re about to do a stretch of shows through the Pacific Northwest. We go out to, we go to places. It’s funny. We talk about the flyover states. We’ve sold out Seattle, we’ve
sold out Portland, sold out. We just did our seventh show
in California of the year, and here we are, just now
into the middle of April. We’ve sold out around L.A., San Diego. Last year, sold out four
shows in downtown San Diego. I mean, and my point is even
in those places like that where would you think as
bastions of liberalism, I can do two shows in San Jose. People are so desperate for the non-crazy. They’ll drive in, they’ll
get there, they’ll come. My company is pretty diverse in that I got Party Foul Steve, who’s a Marine. So we got the special needs people fit in. And we’ve got my agent is– – We’re gonna have to give him a platform to respond to this, I think, yeah. – Yeah, exactly. Gay Cubano is my agent, my
Jewish manager out of L.A. I got bougie Sean who’s
the only black dude I know with white privilege. I got Jason Hernandez who
I think is, who knows? Build the wall. I mean, we’re diverse, man. We look like a weird rock band
when we come into the bar. – You’re diversely offensive is– – Exactly.
– Yeah. – We were in Salina, Kansas for a show a couple of weeks ago. It was snowing. We went into this deal, and
I went into the bathroom ’cause I came in the back door. And Sean and Jason, who
produce Humor Me for BlazeTV, they went on into the bar and I could hear live music playing. And I was listening through the wall, and I was like, is that band singing she’s got to crap? She took a crap. And then I came out and I walked, and they were singing she’s got the clap. So I said I don’t think
this is the bar for us. We’ll go next door. – Tragically, I know that song. It’s an AC/DC song, and
then I just admitted that. You’re on BlazeTV. How do people find this profound wisdom? People are definitely desperate for it. – (laughing) Yeah. @WatchChad is, of course,
Twitter and Instagram. And if you get on Facebook
and search Chad Prather, you’re gonna find me on
Facebook and as well on YouTube. We’ve got a pretty solid presence there. I’ve got four different Facebook pages which are all pretty big. And someone labeled me a
Political Cowboy years ago. I hated that terminology, but it stuck, and then a modern-day Will Rogers. And then I’ve had, CNN labeled me the Pickup Truck Pundit because we did everything in a truck. It was a easy studio. I could park it in the shade,
I could control the sound and nobody would bother me. – There’s no zoning limits.
– No. I just became a thing. So yeah, and then
watchchad.com is the website. People can find me out there live out and around the country– – Cool.
– Having fun. – Thank you. We’ll get you out of D.C.
before you get corrupted by the Death Star, which
is only blocks away. – [Chad] I know. Thanks, Matt. – Thanks for watching Kibbe on Liberty. By now you know this is
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7 Comments on "Chad Prather’s Cowboy Capitalism | Guest: Chad Prather | Ep 16"


  1. Watch all episodes of the Kibbe on Liberty podcast here: ​https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL36_JCmmBwZrrsXd0VIMJXHBSuWfUm57k

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  2. Obama, Hillary and the Muslim Brotherhood's "Sixteen Year Plan for America" is the "ah ha" for why we voted in Trump and his Marines. This country as we know it would not exist if "The Witch" had won. There is a serious battle behind the scenes, a real battle between good and evil.

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  3. I'm in complete agreement Chad I would be libertarian except for the abortion issue. Everything has gray areas depending on the situation. I don't think I have any right to make other people agree with my preferences and I am all for freedom & the constitution of the United States of America. Every word now has been so altered that everything means something opposite of the meaning when created. We need to get an agreement on what things mean. I have been trying to stop abortion since I was 16 and watched actual abortions and know that it's murder. I've seen enough murder in my life and it's not her body it's INSIDE of her body. A result of having sex and the gifts OR "consequence" of having unprotected sex. If you regret it I'm sorry it happens but murdering your baby. I've talked to ALOT of people who have had abortions and the damage it does to them is heartbreaking. They have PTSD and psychological issues as a result of the murder of their BABIES they allowed and paid for. Can you imagine how much harm that does and way more the farther in the pregnancy when it happens? I've had 3 miscarriages and the hurt that does to my heart… Watch Unplanned and see what it really is. It's different from the narrative you have been sold.

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  4. Give credit where credit is due. Case in point, "Don't hurt me and don't take my stuff" did not start with your mom or mine or anyone else's. It started with, "Thou shalt not steal" and Thou shalt not murder". Your book title needs a footnote … imho

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  5. How can Prather think we are free with the regulation and taxation we live under in America? The definition of slave is to own another production/work/tine. To say we are more free than other more socialist states seems very wrong. We are less enslaved but still slaves.

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  6. Well Chad lol most people don't care about trump past personal issue as long you was never in politic. An he never was so we feel we can trust him far more than some one who been in politic for 20 or more years an has so much dirt in their career you wonder how they not under the prison like aka Hillary. So that why he won why he's going to win again is off of his he said this or that an he did it or is still trying even though the other side is fucking the people he still keeping his word in every step. An no president has keep their word to a t an then be honest about the ones. That has having issue with the other side with passing. So lol my thoughts. It the honesty an openess. Proof. Here I am open tell yah what he think is best for equality for all. Best darn president ever ..

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