Healthcare Is a Human Right—Don’t Let Economics Tell You Otherwise | Nicole Hassoun

Healthcare Is a Human Right—Don’t Let Economics Tell You Otherwise | Nicole Hassoun


Several years ago the World Health Organization
declared that it wasn’t cost-effective to help people get treatment for drug-resistant
tuberculosis. And there was an organization called Partners
in Health that simply refused to accept this claim they said we’re going to do whatever
it takes to help these people. So they came up with a program for treating
drug-resistant tuberculosis in some of the world’s most conflict-ridden, poorest places. And they succeeded in doing it they had very
good treatment outcomes. So they thought creatively about how to come
up with treatment programs that worked and as a result funding for drug resistant TB
increased spectacularly, and now many people around the world have treatment. So what did they do? I think what they did is they have this virtue,
which requires three things. First, that we commit to fulfilling human
rights. Second, that we think creatively or imagine
ways of doing that. And finally, that we act to do so. So let me explain the virtue of creative resolve
a little bit more and hopefully you’ll see why I think it’s really important. So first to have the virtue one has to question
evidence against the possibility of fulfilling human rights. We can do this in many ways so we can question
the source, reliability or implications of that evidence. It’s possible to acquiesce too quickly in
the face of evidence that it’s impossible to help people, or to be so pigheaded that
we refuse to accept the constraints of the given. The second thing that we need to do is I think
consider all of the options on the table and then use our imagination to come up with new
options. Finally, we should act to fulfill human rights. And this requires a measure of grit, will
or resoluteness. We can’t be inflexible and persist even
when it is actually impossible to fulfill rights, but at the same time we shouldn’t
be complacent about it. Since change is difficult, people who don’t
think that it’s possible or desirable to fulfill human rights probably won’t try
hard to do, so hope is important for the virtue of creative resolve. Hope is simply believing something that one
desires is possible but not certain. Still, even when we lack a kind of hope I
think we should have the virtue of creative resolve as long as there is not conclusive
evidence that fulfilling human rights isn’t possible. So the kind of hope we need is a radical hope. In the face of uncertainty we must persist
and exercise our moral imaginations to help people meet their basic needs. But the reason we should have creative resolve
is this: the ground for the human rights is protecting everybody’s ability to live a
dignified human life, and it’s really important that we do that so we should try hard. I think the imperative to try hard is particularly
compelling given that there’s a lot of psychological evidence that people don’t try hard enough. They tend to search not far enough for solutions
to problems, and many people seem to have a narrow view of possibility and feasibility,
assuming tight time frames and financial constraints. When we imagine ourselves succeeding in tasks
we’re often more likely to do so, perhaps because our imagination spurs a sense of agency
and lets us set plans for the future and act to achieve them. The crux of my disagreement with critics of
the human right to health who think we have to ration and that the human right has to
tell us how to do that is this: I don’t think that’s what the human right to health
has to do or even that it should, rather I think it does something much more important
for us I think it inspires us to do our best to help everyone meet their basic needs. Okay. But if we do have to ration here’s what
I think, I think creative resolve can help us do that. I think it can help us find better ways of
helping more people. We can’t, though, simply build hospitals
in the city rather than also in the countryside because it’s most cost-effective to do that. Everybody has a human right to health and
if we think creatively enough about how to do it, we may be able to help everybody. Okay. So there’s two sides to this virtue, on
the one side we should try very hard to help people fulfill their human rights. On the other side we don’t have to try when
it’s impossible or impermissible to do that. But I’m going to stress and I have been
stressing the positive or commitment side of the virtue for this reason: millions of
people around the world are suffering and dying every year from poverty related causes,
and it’s not as if there’s millions of people trying to help them. I believe we need to try harder, try harder,
try harder. I think we need to find both the resources
and the political will to do this. And like Martin Luther King, we should refuse
to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.

100 Comments on "Healthcare Is a Human Right—Don’t Let Economics Tell You Otherwise | Nicole Hassoun"


  1. Why shouldn't I be entitled to a doctor providing me with healthcare. If you wouldn't provide healthcare to every patient, why become a fucking doctor? Sounds like conservatives want certain people to be killed rather than give a shit about personal "freedom", whatever that means.

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  2. A right cannot cost money. If you say something that costs money is a right what you are saying is that you have a right to enslave other people. But freedom should be a right above all other rights.

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  3. Europe has free health care and they are doing just fine… and all modern necessities such as electricity, water, heat, food, shelter. In this day and age no one should be struggling but unless we're kept under a thumb the government and the 1% will lose power. But it's cool to forget to care about fellow humans let alone people of America. As long as you and your family is good then fuck everyone who is struggling. Some people really don't have the option to move up in life. How is that any different from slave days? Just a different coating of paint. To keep us compliant. Make us feel like we can't make a change in how this world and this country is run. How we look at other people. How we treat others. We just need to wake up and start giving a shit about people what's going on in the world and not just sit back while the rich run the world and we're thanking them for scraps. Or say "fuck everyone" but note that you're the problem. There is no room for that mind set and it shouldn't be tolerated. It's shameful. But it's "cool" now to be a selfish dick.

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  4. The fact that it is a human right does not make someone entitled to steal from someone else in order to get healthcare.

    Citizens in US have the right to own guns. That doesn't mean they get guns and ammo for free, it means they are free to purchase them.

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  5. "The Tyranny of Market Forces"

    Nice. Who else would handle the market then? The Government? Worked out well for the Soviets, didn't it.

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  6. Its my Human right to have $1,000,000 in my bank account!
    how about the politicians pushing for "free healthcare" give up a couple of their homes to make that happen.
    Its my human right, and Someone has to pay for it

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  7. How can one person's labor or possessions be another person's right?

    Healthcare consists of people with good educations and many expensive and high-tech products.

    The raw materials have to be bought by someone, assembled by someone, designed by someone, delivered by someone, and administered by someone.

    Are these people slaves to the Ill?

    I'm NOT saying we couldn't do better. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do more but I can't see how something consisting of the labor of others could ever be my right.

    If these people work, they need to be paid. Where does the money come from? People who have earned it? How is it another's "right" to have someone else's money?

    If you want to argue that it is good, effective or moral. That's a different discussion. It's not a right. Nothing that requires someone else to do something could ever be your right.

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  8. The comments are always full of these antisocial shut-ins that couldn't fathom working alongside other people so they fail against taxes without realizing that the point of being a NATION is that we work together to make sure everyone does better. People on the left kind of the get this but conservatives have been so brainwashed they have no idea that their nationalism is the most anti-patriotic version of it possible

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  9. "healthcare is a human right" guess what, u could say "denying healthcare and therefore not having to pay for it is also a human right" LISTEN we need healthcare for all NOT because everyone wants healthcare. but because there is a lot of luck involved to health. ofc with a healthy lifestyle u could change the chances of u getting sick and therefore lower / higher your costs (thats why people who chose a healthy lifestyle should have to pay less and vice verse) BUT what it all comes down to is: if say 50% of people WANT healthcare it would be wrong from the other 50% who dont want it to fuck off. lets ask why? simple thought experiment. lets say u are 2 people, You and Your brother. you want a social healthcare deal with your brother which means u and your brother share the luck / bad luck. your brother deosnt want it. in the scenario where he gets sick he would have his money saved say $50K and if it isnt enough he will simply die and everything so far would be fair since he chose to ACCEPT the gamble. but lets say U get cancer and u need 100K€ for a therapy but u only have saved up 50K by not having to pay health insurance -> u die. in a social healthcare situation your brother would have paid the 50K form him (since he doesnt need it for himself because he got lucky and u unlucky so his luck compensates for your bad luck), too to make it 100K€ for u and U WOULD survive. so u can EASILY see how a social healthcare system is mandatory even if not everyone agrees. the "luck" involved is just too big. u can be the healthiest person and still get sick. but a social healthcare system also requires to tax unhealthy food etc much more since it creates more costs for the taxpayers.

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  10. kinda sad to see how the big think videos on average are getting worse and worse. JUST THINK LOGICALLY ABOUT IT AND U WILL COME TO THE CONCLUSION, THAT HEALTHCARE FOR ALL IS MANDATORY EVEN IF NOT ALL WANT IT. because there is too much rng involved and People who WANT to take the RISK and not pay into social healthcare force others who DONT want to take the risk to also having to take that risk. and thats the problem. lets say health insurance costs around 6000€ a year, thats like 120,000€ in 20 years. lets say in those 20 years u are the one out of 10 who gets really sick and u need to pay 500,000€. your 120,000€saved wont help u much. BUT if the other 9 people who didnt get unlucky would have agreed to social healthcare they could EASILY compensate your bad luck with their luck. its morally not correct to force others to TAKE the risk only because u want to take the risk for yourself. its just so extremely obvious why a social healthcare system is mandatory. ofc u'd also need to tax people who PURPOSELY chose to live an unhealthy lifestyle such as smoking, getting fat af, doing risky things where injuries might happen (extreme sports etc) more. and people who try to live a healthy life tax less.

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  11. It is not economists that you should consult but linguists or philosophers. One cannot have a positive right, only negative rights exist. Healthcare cannot be a right as it would necessarily be a positive right. Ugh! Wish they taught basic reason and logic in schools.

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  12. Both the video thumbnail and title are very misleading as to the main arguments presented in the speech. Sure it is easy enough to debunk the idea of positive rights, however, this is probably a misunderstanding or lack of education the subject on the speaker's part. The idea that we can ought to try harder to make access to health services more equitable is a virtue like she says, and being optimistic for the sake of the sick and dying is probably a good thing to an extent. She argues, not explicitly, against consequentialism and in favor of virtue ethics or deontology, both of which negate the idea of positive rights according to most ethicists, so in time she will most likely come around to agree that politics has no place in health services and that voluntary interactions are the best.

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  13. I don't understand how healthcare can be a right. I understand the argument that we have a responsibility as a society to provide it. But, how could it be a right?

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  14. Health care for all but please don't make people listen to this woman try to articulate why, I can see why there are so many dislikes. She's really not helping anyone, she's just wishing really hard.

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  15. This is the irony of modern times, with mobile phones in hand we are thinking that we have become God, but the truth is it's just the communication technology that has revolutionized while for healthcare we don't even have proper support system, I am a cancer geneticist and we don't get proper funding for research, what can be expected from us then
    https://youtu.be/SBLpt-vQs8s

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  16. For everyone who doesn`t think healthcare shouldn`t be a human right or for everyone that thinks he shouldn`t pay for sick and old people … there was a Group of People in History that thought that too and they where called the Nazis. They just did go one step futher and killed everyone that was to old or sick so that Society didn`t have to take care of them. And that is exactly were this way of thinking leads. So if you think we as a Society shouldn`t take care of sick and old People and let them die because they have no health insurance and can`t pay alone for their Treatment then you should be Aware that you have the same view on this Topic as the Group of People we normally use to describe pure evil.

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  17. HOW ABOUT WE GET CONGRESS TO FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO DISCLOSE THE VITAL INFORMATION THEY ARE HOLDING FROM THE PUBLIC THAT CAN SAVE OUR PLANET.

    http://siriusdisclosure.com/evidence/#witness

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  18. so all the dislikes are people who would openly let people die from things that can be prevented, and then contribute to society.

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  19. I don't think healthcare is a human right, I think it's more of an infrastructure like roads and bridges, paid by taxpayers to keep the society working.

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  20. You can not have a Right that requires someone else to give you something. No one has a Right to someone else's property or labor. It's fine to say we should provide care for everyone, but calling it a Right is just ignorant.

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  21. You are not entitled to, and don't have the "right" to other people's labour just for merely being human.

    Her argument is basically just wishful thinking, good luck with that.

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  22. If someone has to work for free,or if someone else has to pay for you to get it,it is not your human right.

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  23. Her argument is so flawed that she failed to see this with her own fucking example at the beginning hahahhahaha the private sector succeeded where the government had failed… would you look at that…. and to call it a human right is such a misnomer in this situation, you should have the right to seek help, but it does not and should not guarantee whether or not someone is going to help you and you should not use an authoritarian figure to push it….

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  24. Health Care is an essential public service, as is security, justice, defence, education, environmental protection, safety regulations, public transportation, etc. It's a shame the US is the only developed country on earth still tied up in knot over something so elementary.

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  25. I think she should follow up on what she's saying and donate all her money and property to Universal Healthcare purposes.

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  26. Alrighty, time to throw my opinion out on the internet:
    In my opinion, healthcare is very, very important and people who can afford to donate to such a cause (which most western people can) should do so. However, I disagree with the statement that healthcare is a human right. Sure, people without access to healthcare can suffer dramatic consequences and those people should be helped, but simply because the abstence of something would result in suffering doesnt mean people have a right to it. If some people suffer because they havent had sex in a long time, should sex be a human right? Some people suffer under their parents divorcing, should parents be forced to stay married? So to make healthcare a human right and to really give access to healthcare to everyone, either doctors would have to labour without monetary compensation, or people who arent in medical fields would be forced to give money to healthcare organisations under the threat of negative physical or financial ramifications (aka stealing/blackmailing). So, unless everyone or enough people would voluntarily agree to participate to healthcare in such a manner that would be enough to provide healthcare for everyone, therefore making it possible for healthcare to make it a human right, I do not think Healthcare is a human right.

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  27. 'Use our 'imagination'? Image me taking your money to making someone else happy, healthy and richer than yesterday. You, of course, have received NO benefit from your own labor, ingenuity, knowledge, blood, and sweat. Hmmmm, I see a problem here.

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  28. No, people don't think that it's not possible… They just think that their own financial well being is more important than the health of those around them. Selfish bastards.

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  29. the conservatives that are against healthcare really have been duped by the super rich cronies that lead the republican party.
    nobody in their right mind would say paying taxes for healthcare is a bad thing.
    you pay for services like the police and firefighters (absolutely invaluable services) but won't pay for the other service every developed country has that could save your life. i could understand you americans complaining about having to pay for the police since you're all armed to the teeth with automatic weapons and you think it makes you safer. but really, how on earth do you sow your fingers back on? how do you create your own lifesaving treatments?
    if you get sick in the usa, you're guaranteed two things…. bankruptcy or death

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  30. I love the fact i can just sit here in australia with the best healthcare in the world and know i can go too the doctor and not pay a fucking cent the doctors get paid and every fucking person has an equal right too it STRAYA!!!!

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  31. Based on that same logic, eating which is as important ir even more important should also be a human right. And having somewhere to protect yourself from the elements (housing) should also be a human right. And a lot of things should be considered human rights. By that logic, we should be given everything that matters or is needed for free. Why work then? And the most important, who is gonna pay all the cost associated to those "human rights"?

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  32. Money money money. I've been very reminiscent lately of the days when I held little value for and had no need for money. The days to years of my childhood seem to have flashed through like a very quick timelapse within my mind

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  33. So is food, so is housing, so is education, so is clothes…..what did I miss? This is why you idiots still live in mom's basement.

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  34. In my opinion this channel has zero prestige at this point. Time to change the series to “Big Thugs” or “Garbage Galore”

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  35. You as a human have no rights, never-mind healthcare. If you want something you can get off your ass and get it yourself. In a perfect world I'd love to see no one suffer but this world is far from that and suffering is everywhere. To make another man/women work like a dog so you can sit back and receive unearned substitutions is either extremely generous or extremely selfish.

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  36. Healthcare Is a Human Right.

    http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/
    Article 25.
    (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
    (2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

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  37. You don't have a right to the labor of others. That's called #slavery. You don't have a right to the income generated by the labor of others that's also #slavery. Never forget stealing is wrong even when you do it with a vote.

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  38. I'm sorry are you going back to school to become a nurse or doctor? Are you opening up a clinic anytime soon? When you say try harder, does that include yourself or the people who already working toward providing healthcare.

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  39. Exploit the land, exploit the workforce, exploit the consumer, exploit the sick, exploit the poor, exploit the law and what do you get? The "free market".

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  40. Human rights are human invented and defined. They will continue to increase.
    However, it is a figment of our invention only and has no real basis.

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  41. Under the systems and policies we have today , money is the insensitive not the act to cure and help others out of good nature , people are dying all over the world because treatment is to costly and in some cases people have put themselves out their to help but higher sources say no you can't as it costs to much $$$. The mind set of the west now is money money money buy buy buy work work work , oh shit i am going to die from an illness not to worry il keep on buying till my very last breath :/ The problem is the mental state of people now , no one seems to care anymore. How many people right now would give up phones, cars , sun beds , parties , fine dinning new clothes weekly , to fund someone else's medical costs ,someone who lived on the breadline , who looked after the mother hmm.. exactly. I am not saying you should give up your hard earn money , but if you compare those things that never really make u happy that is why you keep buying over and over again to helping save a life – yea most people will still be heartless , that person dies but you go have a sunbed yea your happy for 5 mins but dam it whats next but the time that person has a funeral you've gone through the same process multiple times , work – money – spend = must – must – must = :/ Most of your life blinded buy that process while healthcare is being made for profits , wars , slavery ect.. but don't worry just go buy something u will be happy for 5 mins – This is the problem buy participating in that same process you make the rich stronger to impose more constraints on its fellow man.

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  42. While i absolutely agree with her on the topic of healthcare vs. human right, her presentation and support are awful.  Classic ivory tower "academia".  For 5 min, she hasn't even said a single convincing point on why healthcare is a human right.

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  43. You can't have a right to healthcare. Healthcare is a service provided through the labor of another human being. Asserting a right to healthcare is saying that you have the right to someone else's labor. We commonly call this slavery. No amount of imagination can square that circle.

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  44. The title screen hilarious.
    "The Tyranny of Market Forces".
    Leftists fear the market because it sorts for intelligence and ethics. Both of which they lack.

    Not surprisingly it's leftist opposition to market forces that has resulted in most of the tyranny through history.
    See Pre-WWII Germany-Italy-Japan, USSR, China, North Korea, Cambodia, Cuba, etc.

    Also fascist/national socialists are leftists with a shave and maybe a job.

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  45. should someone who eats fast food everday all day receive health care ? im not saying they shouldnt or should. I just want to open the conversation and hear peoples thoughts

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  46. Comments here prove how far people from the US are from what in the rest of the world is called "reality", "human rights" and other concepts that apparently don't even come near to an average US citicen's mind. It won't be long until such a society destroys itself, they have been near a couple of times. My guess is that next time will be definitive. The wealthiest country in the contemporary world, with the most stupid and ignorant society in the contemporary world.

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  47. I'm living in a European country with a pretty strong health- and social care system and since my salary is quite nice I have to dump about 50% of my income to the state. I don't complain, I stand for 100% behind this system. I'm proud to make my contribution. It creates solidarity and a large middle class which is important for a stable democracy.

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  48. So you "liberals" who think healthcare is a right–can you prove that logically? (Whoops, sorry–so fallacious Argument from Pity allowed.) Prove to me why you have the right to force Peter to pay for Paul's health care.

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  49. I disagree and my disagreement is based on the fundamental characteristics of human rights:

    One basic characteristic of a "Human Right" is that it is inherent. That means Human Rights are not granted by any person or authority and the right cannot be provided by any person or authority. It is INHERENT. That means it can't be granted by a government and it cannot be provided to you by another person or government. Healthcare is a service that is provided by healthcare providers and entirely dependent on the services provided by the employees of that healthcare provider. Without the services provided by the employees of a healthcare provider, you do not have healthcare. If healthcare were considered a right, you would then have the right to the services of other human beings. Except having the right to someone else's services is in itself a violation of THEIR human rights as nobody has the right to another person's services, ever.

    Freedom is an INHERENT human right that is not dependent on the services of others. Everyone is born free and you have a right to protect that freedom. You can collaborate with others to help aid you in protecting that freedom, but you do not have a right to them aiding you in protecting your freedom. No human right is granted by a government and they are also not dependent on the services of others. You NEVER have the right to the services of others. It would directly disagree with the fundamental characteristics that constitute human rights.

    Nothing to do with economics, everything to do with the fundamental characteristics of Human Rights
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  50. Healthcare for all in the United States is not practical or affordable. This isn’t Canada or Europe. Stop painting every country with a magical universal solution on certain issues. It’s narrow minded.

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  51. A human right is a natural right. If something depends on someone else giving it to you, it's not a human right. It doesn't matter whether you support it or not, that's not the point. It isn't a human right. You can support everyone having it all you want, that doesn't make it a human right. Governments cannot give human rights. They can either protect them or take them away, but they can't give them. That's why free speech is a human right. It's a natural right that humans have had since language developed. The only time it hasn't been is when a government, entity, or group has taken it away from others. A HUMAN RIGHT CANNOT BE GIVEN.

    Now if you want to argue that everyone should have healthcare, that's a different discussion. It still doesn't make it a human right.

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  52. You do not have the right to demand services. The roll of government is not to give you health care.

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  53. The parasite Joe Biden gets free the best health care and why care for the poor when he's a yes man to the rich elite. The Repubictards and Demoncatz are the same party ( two sides of the same coin ) ! The party for the rich elite !% and their mega-corporations. John F Kennedy was the last real President that we had and it got him assassinated ! Every other president has just been yes men and just figure heads ! You can see from Johnson to Trump and notice the plight of the poor . The destruction of the unions, under taxation of the rich and over taxation of the poor, free medical care for the Senate, House of Representatives, and President ! Yet they deny medical care for the poor so the rich insurance companies can keep their money! Health care for the poor to the Repubictards and Demoncatz is pure socialism and communism but free health care for them, full pay in retirement, trillion dollar buyouts for the mega-corporations, and tax breaks for the rich in trickle down myth! That is the great capitalism they spew about i.e. Social Corporatism ! Don't you think the polls are fake and dishonest ! Bernie Sanders has low poll ratings really ?, it is insulting to people that think for themselves, but OK for the Bread and Circuses crowd ! The Media lies and supports these fake polls and therefore are fake news !

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  54. Meanwhile, the military gets a blank check and the Pentagon can’t even be audited. Notice you people don’t complain about that when you ramble about “free” healthcare.

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  55. A human right is something you are allowed to do. It is not forcing others to do something for you. That is the opposite. That is slavery. Free healthcare can never be a human right.

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  56. We didn't get #1 for quality by giving it out for free. You want it done free? Go somewhere else. What it done fast? Come here. Want it half assed? Go somewhere else. What it done right? Come here.

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