29 Comments on "Let's Get Real – Vinyl Community"


  1. Just to say it once more: Craig, your Fluance Turntable is very good Stuff, and comparable with any Project Turntable up to 1000,- USD. You can upgrade the Fluance – as you already know, and your experience with Cardridges is a very important and useful Step in your learning curve about everything that belongs to vinyl.
    And, bytheway, you already figured out the Difference between the built in Phonostage of the AT120 and the Phonostage of your Nikko Preamp! And, you also shared your experience with us, and it is said: Teaching is the perfect way to learn! I think you agree to this wise word, don`t you ? 😉
    So, Vinyl is final, best regards, signing out…..

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  2. The biggest thing that annoys me is all these snobs who says you need to spend thousands on such and such a brand or you're not doing it right, I play the saxophone and lots of saxophone snobs say the Selmer Mark VI is the best instrument in the world and will only touch that instrument, what a load of rubbish, they've clearly never spent the time testing other instruments

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  3. Well I just got around to viewing this video, and are talking right toward me on these subjects. After many years, I began to start building a stereo system kinda like I had some time ago. I found that a guy had a working Realistic 77 receiver for sale locally, bought it. Another local guy had a set of old school Pioneer speakers, picked them up. Then after bidding and losing over 20 bids on Goodwill Online, hey I scored a Technics turntable with ADC cartridge for less than $25. The speakers were fine, I had to disassemble the front of the receiver to repair the AM FM/FM stereo indicator.

    I set this up in a spare bedroom on a folding table and it was obvious that it was not level. Got on Facebook Marketplace and found a lady selling a small wood TV stand that had door in the bottom. Set it all up. I had an album or two in the basement so I retrieved one and tried it out. Horrible! Stop stop! As it turned out, the stylus pressure was extremely high for the cartridge, I had watched your setup video earlier and got this running very well, I am very pleased! I’m figuring I’m at about $180.00 right now. And I’m very pleased with this. The topper is, I had a friend of mine give me many albums as he was moving and didn’t want to pack them up. 70 LPs most in good shape. My older brother had a collection since the early 60’s and that also fell right into my lap. His vinyl was very well taken care of. The very latest, a Spin Clean for Father’s Day. Yes.

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  4. With respect for your enthusiasm, this is just well-intentioned homespun philosophy. I saw a video by HIVINWYS in Japan that showed EXACTLY how a technics SL1200 mk5 blew a $400 turntable out of the water. You don't need golden ears to hear the difference, even on youtube. Get a second hand Technics instead of ANYTHING costing $400 or so brand new..

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  5. Shit Craig do you really worry about Trolls man YouTube is troll country!
    What I d like to say is ppl should think where their dollars are going and buy products from companies that employ locals use local materials pay local taxes and care about the environment and don’t listen to idiots who say that it’s racist to not buy made in China. You good argue the opposite as nearly all (at least the ones I’ve seen) Chinese factories are run like slave labour camps with poor pay and conditions little to no safety and all the profits going to the boss with communist party connections.

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  6. I agree with you. If you have it spend it. If you don't enjoy the music. Its like drag racing. To go from 14 sec to 12 in the 1/4 mile is really easy and cheap. To go 11.8 sec your going to pay allot. But allot of $$$ only got you 0.2 seconds. No matter your budget enjoy the music.

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  7. I agree with you on this crazy hobby way to much this and that makes a difference just enjoy the music, only thing to me is that a bad recording with a good system sounds horrible to the ears now that is when you can tell a big difference and all the other things mostly is to do with money with no real return.

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  8. Well Craig, again an excelent video. I like to watch your video's allthough I do own a set that wasn't cheap. Most componets are Revox and Studer. Got 2 turntables 1 Revox B790 which I do own now for 40 years and 1 later model the B291. Built like a tank. Both are linair tracking, so no need to worrie off anti skating and other major problems. Nothing can go wrong, because you don't touch the arm. Allso when you start playing a record the stylus goes through a brush, so it's allway's clean. But sometimes I do use the stylus gell for extra cleaning.Resently I did recap the B790 and it still runs like new. All maintenace I do myself allthough I'm a early retired cheff. I like the video'sbecause off the simplisity and and you said the down to earth method. Like I mentinoned at an other video the smallest part make or break the set up. Keep on going do the good work. And again I really like the shirt. Any idea where I can get hold off one or two? Kind regards.

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  9. A different angle: people who have 'average gear' have gear that fails in all different ways. It's like a group of 'average baristas' making coffee. Makes it harder to give any reliable description or advice based on any single one of them. This point is not about snobbery.

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  10. A well engineered turntable, no matter what, is going to give you the best listening experience FOR THE MONEY! I agree with you. Objectivity is what is so critical, not BEING critical!

    This is a good video. Everyone has their opinion, and I do too. Passion is great! BUT if your passion outweighs objectivity, like Michael Fremer, then you serve noone! Sure, he has a great experience and knowledge base, but I wish he would leave the rhetoric to the trolls! We need more objectivity like you supply. I always go with my gut, but I keep a SCIENTIFIC approach, no matter what. You must keep the facts in mind…

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  11. I have a Rega planar 1, an Onkyo a9110 amp, and some q acoustic 3020 speakers. All in cost me £600. It sounds amazing. Glad I didn’t spend more!

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  12. Great video, Craig. You made me remember my father’s turntable back in the seventies, a Garrard. It had a straight tonearm, it didn’t have counterweight or anti-skating adjustments, yet it sounded great to my ears! If some record had too much dynamic range and made the stylus jump, he’d simply stick a coin on the top of the headshell, boom. Problem solved. It was simple as that.

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  13. This got me interested and i looked at some sights featuring Mcintosh units. Were talking 33.000 dollars for a turntable, 18000 for an integrated amp. Connecting cables thousands of dollars. The mind boggles.

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  14. Here's an idea for the audio tech weenies…The joy you get out of listening to an album on a $30,000 system is less than the joy I get out of listening to albums on my friend's thrift-store junk system – I guarantee it. When we listen to scratched albums together on his shitty old system, we sing along, dance, and are totally immersed in the experience of whatever it is we are listening to. If you waved a wand, and replaced his $300 system with a $30,000 system our enjoyment would not increase ten thousand fold, not even close. If you replaced his system with a $30,000 our enjoyment would increase by about 2%…or less – I guarantee it.

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  15. Totally agree with you on the hype often misleading inexperienced buyers in spending lots of money on systems which in my view does not sound good at all. I recently set up my 1974 stereo system and it still sounds great, actually shockingly great when playing records from last hald of the 80s in particular. I do hava a Sansui Recordplayer SR212 which is very rugged and still works as a dream. Belt driven so they need to be replaced some time but original spec belts are available. This turntable has a 1970s (US) ADC ZLM cartridge. I strongly recommend you to try one of these if you can get it. There are one on the Bay right now for $200+ and there is a reason for that. The ADC is originally equipped with a Alliptical stylus which is between Shibata and Elliptical. It plays incredibly well on my system. Recently I set up a Linear record player I got a few years back but I never bothered with it because I always thought they weren't the real thing. How wrong I was. It was a mind-blowing experience. The ADC and the liar plays very different, the ADC sort of artistic whicle the linear P-L51 sounds like a high end studio take. Well, ill put some more info on my Vimeopage on this but you may take a peep on this videoclip. It is the 1974 system mated with the 1980s linear tracker. One big difference between the SR212 and P-L51 is the S/N ratios, the SR212 is 45 and the Linear tracker is 73. There is some air conditioner noise in the background. Recorder in 44/16 Zoom H5 with crappy mikes.
    https://vimeo.com/325318157

    More samples, High Quality DEECCA Phase 4 records:
    https://vimeo.com/322888445
    https://vimeo.com/323471577

    There is a lot more info. I will post it on Vimeo.
    The system except for the Linear tracker. Dont mind the sound on this one.
    https://vimeo.com/307357930

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  16. This video is wonderful, Craig. I like the logical point of view that you have given us. You have also validated what I actually believed about hi fi, but there is always marketing, and advertising that has a hi fi music fan to start to spend as much as a down payment, or price on a used luxury car! Although I believe all of the components in my hi fi stereo system are fine, and very satisfactory, I may buy a second turntable. I am also very curious to hear the difference. As I am saving more money I don't think I am going to spend more than $800 on a new turntable. I don't believe that you ought to spend that much more. Further, what is your advise on a used turntable, without a phono cartridge? Thank you for any advise, and suggestions that you can express.

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  17. I think theres a huge difference between a low quality turntable and a midrange turntable. I think the difference between a midrange turntable and a high end turntable is much less.

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  18. I have a JVC turntable that I purchased in 1977 it is in excellent condition, I do need to replace the belt, do you know what it is worth aproximately? thanks JLA-20 model I have the original box and manual ROD

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  19. You are just so knowledgable and honest, I'll probably keep watching your videos forever. It's really nice to hear your opinion on vinyl records and record players because I totally agree with you. It's all about enjoying music and some people will eventually go further than others but just as long as everybody is enjoying their music and hifi-setup everything's alright!

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