Russian Revival: Post Soviet Union era part 2

Russian Revival: Post Soviet Union era part 2


Genesis 26:18
tells us “Isaac dug again the
wells of Abraham.” In every generation, there have been revivals, massive moves of the Spirit that changed the
course of history. In every revival, there
were believers like you who chose to answer the call to become the one in
their generation. Discover your call to be the one in your
generation. We are about to
take you face to face
with history. Welcome to Revival
Radio TV, I’m your host, pastor
Gene Bailey and I’m so glad you’re
with me. Today you’re going to
hear some stories about the Soviet Union and again
with me today is our host and my
guest, Rick Renner. Thank you, sir. – Good to see you, Gene. – Rick, I want to dive
right into the first time you landed in Russia. After you’ve moved
your family though. Let’s pick up after your
family is there and you’re really digging into,
in the early 90s now, you’re digging into
ministry in the Soviet Union. – Uh-huh. – Tell me something… You’ve shared with me before but I
want to hear some of the stories of how you saw God moving in
the Soviet Union. – Can I begin when our
family got off the plane? – Absolutely. – Well we landed in Riga
and we didn’t know what was in front of us. When we first
moved there, we just made a one-year commitment. – I remember. – And here we are
almost 30 years later. – Right, ha ha… – But when we got off the
airplane, as a family, we came down the steps and
back in those days, even though the Soviet Union
had collapsed, by that time, just a few
months earlier, there were still soviet
soldiers everywhere. – Right. – And they were staying at
the bottom of the stairs of the plane with
their machine guns to make sure everything
was in order and our family came down
the steps and right when we got off the plane, on the tarmac we got on our knees and
we asked the family to bend over and we
kissed the ground. And we asked God
to put it in our heart. And Gene, we just didn’t
know how deep He was going to put
it in our hearts. That’s how it
all started. – Wow. – And within a short
period of time, Denise and I are
holding meetings. And honestly our first
public meeting was in an ice skating stadium
and it was so funny because you know, the Soviet
Union had collapsed… – Right. – Everything was
in disarray. There was the
underground church but the underground church
didn’t know how to do
anything publicly. They were afraid to
even be known and so when we began to
have meetings, nobody knew how to do it. So our first meeting was in this hockey stadium and we could not
conduct our meeting until the guys playing
hockey got off the ice. – Ha! – And we watch all these sick
people began to come into
the stadium and I was on one side of
the stadium and the crowd was seated on the
other side of the stadium and between us was all
this ice. – Right. Well when it came time to
pray for the sick, I wish you could of seen
all the sick people on their crutches and
their canes, walking across the ice. – Really, on that. – Gene… – Oh my gosh. – And they are hobbling on
this ice, I’m thinking, “Jesus, we are going to need
a lot of miracles today.” – Ha ha. – And that’s when our TV
ministry began. Somebody filmed that and
put it on television. We didn’t know. And when Denise and I
watched that on TV, the next week, that’s when
God spoke clearly to us and He said, “I want you
to take Sunday school to the whole Soviet Union. – You know, when I was
there, and I don’t want to get off topic too
much here but I remember being faced with all
the 74 years of communism that had happened… – Right. – and understanding and I
knew we were– You, evangelizing
and I did not realized that we had to start
all the way back at step number 1, which is
God is a good God. – Yea, people didn’t
know anything. They had no
foundation at all and in fact, I mean, communism
made religion illegal. We had staff members who
never heard of Christmas until they came
to work for us. – Right. – But where there is an
absence of religion, people find
something else. And psychics ruled
the Soviet Union. You could turn on your TV
every morning, there was a national psychic who
would give a prediction for the day and people
would listen to it and they would really live by what the
psychic had to say. – Um… But there was such a vacancy on
their hearts for spiritual things And here we come and we
were the first Americans to be on television
every day and Gene, I can’t tell you
that Denise and I did
everything right but we were on the right
place at the right time. He had nitched a place for us in Soviet
Russian history because we were the
first to do this. – Yea. – And people began
listening to us because they had never
heard anybody else and the enigma that we were
Americans on television in a
communist country even made people tune into
the program more. And the letters began to come
by the tens of thousands… – Oh wow. – And we were not prepared. We had 800 000
letters to answer before we even knew what
was happening. It took us a year to
catch up on the mail. And out of that, churches were
born, students were educated, it’s just amazing. We have lived the
New Testament. – When you think back on
those early days, when you were there, is there
a miracle that stands out? Any miracle
that stand out? – One. Yea, one was really
a dramatic miracle. We were holding a meeting in
Riga, and Denise and I
didn’t know… how many people would come but
the hall would sit 5 000. It was packed every
night for 5 nights. And there was a man who had
fallen off of a roof and he had severed his
spinal cord and so the bottom half of
his body was dead. He could use his arms,
but he couldn’t use his legs. – Wow. – And during one of
those meetings, the bottom half of this body
just came alive and it was right out
of the Bible. He went walking and
leaping and praising God… – Wow! – Came to the front,
crutches on the stage. A week later, showed up
at our office with all the X-rays and all the
medical verification that he had really
received a miracle. – My goodness. – And out of that miracle,
our church in Riga was born. – So that’s what I was
going to ask you. How did the church start? – Well… – From those meetings, just
because of all the interest? – While I was staying on the
stage looking at that crowd, at the end of the meetings,
I heard the Lord saying, “Now what are you gonna do
with these people?” – Right. – Well I haven’t
thought about that. – Sure. – I just thought about
having a big meeting. But God was calling me to take
responsibility for that meeting. And so we began to look
for a place to meet and the only place that
would take us was the former meeting hall
of the communist party. – I remember that building. I remember seeing
that building. Back up a little
bit, was there?… You say, the only place
that would take you… Is it because there’s
still a lot of fear left over? – Mainly because I
was American. – Okay. – People were suspicious or
they thought we were the CIA and the fact that we
had TV equipment made them more suspicious. – Of course. – Because they thought we were
there to film their secrets. Of course, I don’t
have any idea what secrets they were
talking about. But I mean they were
really suspicious of us. Now this was in the
Republic of Latvia. And it went all the way
to the prime minister. I mean, the prime
minister was against us. – So you had opposition,
it wasn’t just a… – Oh! We had real opposition. – Yea. – But the communist party by
that time was out of business. And so this hall was
available and these people willing to
make some money. – Yea. – And so we rented it. And Gene, it was a round
auditorium and all the way around, it was
the star of the Soviet Union and right above the stage was
the crest of the Soviet Union and on one side was
a big cameo of Lenin. On the other side was
a big cameo of Marx and right under all of that, is
where we saw the power of God in demonstration
and the church was born. And that’s really when
the ministry got rooted. It was just awesome
to see what God did. – How was your first
service on that building? – Packed. Packed. It only had 800 because it was
made for diplomats and delegates but it was
packed. People hanging
over the balcony. Wow, because they were
hungry for the Word of God. – They were hungry. – Isn’t that interesting
that you are there. I can just imagine that
picture with Lenin and Marx on the walls
and Jesus down bellow. Ha ha… – You sit in a crowd, you
raise your hands to worship and you look up and there
is Marx and there is Lenin. It was just a
surreal experience. – Surreal, I can
only imagine. That’s wild. So what happened
after that? So the church
started to grow? – The church began to grow
and became established and because of the
TV ministry was just taking off all over
the Soviet Union and even though the communist
party was now no longer in favor, a lot of the deputies in
Russian cities and
Soviet cities were still communists and so for me to negotiate
to go on TV time, I had to go and deal
with communists and God put the love in
my heart for communists and Gene,
I still love communists. – True. – And today in Moscow, we
have a gigantic senior adult ministry. It’s all former
communists and atheists and I have such a
love for those people. – What is it that
you think people… And I know that, “No man comes
unless the Spirit draws him”, but what is it that you
think they saw there at the church? What made them
want to come? – Well I think in every man,
there is a hunger for God. There is an echo in
the human soul that knows that there is
something missing. – Did you ever think you
wanted to give up and go back to the States? – Never. Never and Gene, we had
some really hard times. We had a period of time
when the mafia was after us… – Why were they after you? Because they just
didn’t want you to preach the gospel there? – No, because they
didn’t want us to do business outside of them. – I see. And if you read second
Corinthians chapter 11 where Paul says, “He’s
been in danger in rivers, dangers in cities,
danger–in perils of robbers, false brethren… I can tell you that I could
have written that chapter. We had walked through
everything you can imagine. And one of these days, I’m
going to put it all on a book. – Wow. – It will be a great book. – It does sound
like a real good book. And God just walked
us through everything we’ve been
through and we believe we are
there to the end. – Amen. So you built this
church and you start off with–packed out. – That was in Riga. – In Riga. And then how did you
get from Riga to Moscow? – Well I knew that Moscow
was our destination. Riga was our training but
in the year 2000, Denise and I knew it was time to
take step number 2 so we packed up our family and
all our belongings– we put everything into 2
train wagons and we moved to Moscow
and we rented a room– Oh, I wish you could
of been there. – Oh, I’d loved it. – In a hotel in Russis which
set right on Red Square. – I stayed there. We stayed there
one night. – That’s where we
started our church. – Wow. – Right on Red Square. And the first night, we had 200
people, I think 234, 235… and from that moment
forward, it just took off… Just took off. and today, we’ve got
about 4700 people that go
to our church in Moscow. – And the church in Riga?
It’s still going? – Oh, it’s doing great. – What were some of the–
Tell me a story of how you saw God really
move in Moscow. Is there anything that
comes to mind that you?… – Well we see Him
move every day. I mean, we live
in the end. It was rated the world’s
most expensive city. It’s in the top 3. – Uh-huh. – I mean just seeing
what God has done to help us financially to
do what we’ve done. It’s a miracle
every day, Gene. – It is a miracle
every day. – It is. – We have great favor
with the government. People hear reports about
Russia that are negative but I want to tell you,
the government is very favorable to the
work of the church. – Wonderful. – Yea, it’s good. – What about the…Let’s
talk about revival from your experience. – Uh-huh. – You’ve obviously, you were
every bit a carrier of revival to Russia and Latvia, and
everywhere you went. What would you say that
was the key to revival there? And before you answer,
people here– we always want to like come
up with a formula. You’ve got to do this,
this and this and if you pray 18 hours the day and
do this, this and this, God is going to show up
because He’s gonna have to because you’ve
done all these steps. Tell me. – Never thought
about revival. All I thought about was doing
what God is telling me to do. – That’s it. That’s it. – That’s it. – Doing what God
told you to do. – That’s it. And everything is flown
out of obedience. – You know, that was
Veroniev and they just wanted to get
some people saved. Never thought
what would happen. – Veroniev had a great
effect with his life. – Yea. What would you
say to uh– How do you think we should?… – Can I make one
more comment about that? – Yes, please. – I think that what is
happening in Russia, there is a lot of talk
about the modern workers, us, others that have
worked the fields in Russia but I really think that
what’s happened in Russia and the Soviet
Union, is because of the people who died
for their faith. – Um. You know, you and I
were talking about that earlier. We were talking
about all of that. People that died
for their faith. They were really seed. We know seedtime of
harvest around here… – Uh-huh. – We understand that but
what a huge seed that was planted with those
mighty men and women of God that you will never
know their name. – We are building on
top of their prayers. They prayed
for this time. – So in fact, you were a
harvest for that nation. – That’s right. We were. – Their seeds. – That’s right. I used to go to a city in
the north of Russia– Tried to go there
every year… –called Vorkuta. In Vorkuta,
there are millions of graves as far as you can see
with your eye, it’s graves. Those are believers who
died for their faith, believing for the time that
we are living in right now. And I never
want to forget. It’s not us. We are just reaping
what they sowed. – So I liked that you said you
weren’t trying to bring a revival. Just one occurred. – It did… – And it’s still going. – It’s still going. The church is strong. The church has become
respectable and again we’ve got a great favor
with the government. – Getting your building in
Moscow. Was that a challenge? – Huge. We tried to do a
building for 10 years. We were in a building
program for 10 years. – Wow. – And Gene, it cost
millions of dollars. Millions. And it was all paid for
cash the day we dedicated it. – That’s wonderful. – That’s a miracle. – When did you
move into that? – It’s been a
couple of years ago. – Right. It’s been a
couple of years ago. – There was a story
you told about stuff that was going on under…under your
church building. – Right. – What was that? – Well when we began the
reconstruction of our building, we brought in the
jackhammers and they were– jackhammering the floor and
all of a sudden, the director of
the Russian space agency who is in the
building next to us, showed up in our
building and said, “Stop this, you can’t use
these jackhammers” and that when we
discovered that under our new facility was a
secret laboratory… Well the reason
we didn’t know about it is because it was secret. – Yeah. And they had built
our facility to conceal that secret laboratory. – Um… And so we had to come
in and figure out how to reconstruct our building
without moving the air because that laboratory
had to be dust free. It was pretty amazing. I don’t know any of the
pastor that has a secret laboratory under
his church. – That’s true. You’ve got quite an interesting
set up there for sure. Ha! As we go through all of
this, Rick, what do you believe God is
telling you is next? – Well I think Jesus is
about to come, first of all. And I think it is time
for the church to get ready for the
coming of Jesus. – Praise God. Amen. – But you know Gene, in every
revival, if you look at the
book of Acts, if you follow revivals
through history, they almost always began with
the supernatural move of God, marked by healings, signs
and wonders and people come
to Christ. But they have
no foundation. They don’t know
the Bible, they don’t know the
characters of the Bible. They repent but they are not
even sure what repentance is. They just don’t
know anything. – Right. – And so as revival matures,
the church begins to grow, people get established on
the Word of God and that’s where we are right
now in Russia. – So is it wrong to look
for–No matter where you live… Is it wrong to look for
signs and wonders? – No. There should be
signs and wonders. – There should be. – There should be
signs and wonders. They should be but my
experience tells me that, especially when a move of
God–When a work of God begins, it’s often marked by a
season of signs and wonders. – Any other miracles stand
out to you that happened in your time there? – Physical miracles? – Yea. – There was a boy
I prayed for. He had been– This was in Ukraine and
there was a boy that had gone to
the military and he had been hazed and he
had been beaten so severely that it knocked his brain
loose from his skull. And he’d just lay in the corner
of his house and just tremble. Just tremors. He could not control it. And I prayed for him and
he showed no signs of change. When I left that home, I
was discouraged because I’d really believe for God
to do something in that boy’s life. A year later, I met
the father of that boy. I asked, “How
is your son?” He said, “Oh, I’m so
sorry, we’ve never told you.” He said, “Our
son is working. A short time after you
prayed for him, he was completely restored.” – Oh wow. – I mean that was
a great miracle. – That is a great miracle. It was really a
great miracle. We’ve seen miracles
of deliverance. There are all
kinds of miracles. You know a miracle in the
Bible is just…It’s the intervention of
divine power into the realm of the natural. It causes something
supernatural to happen. We’ve had miracles of deliverance,
miracles of provision, the list
goes on and on. – Praise God. – Our sons have grown up
in a miraculous environment and to them, it’s
like breathing air. They don’t know
any different. – How was it for them? Because they were over
there as young boys. – Uh-huh. – When they first
came over. It was like a scavenger
hunt every day. We had a blast. – Ha ha. – And I want to say
to people that are listening, that if you
are a parent, it’s so important what you
project to your children because Denise and I have
could of said, “This is so hard. You know there is no
products in the stores, this is so
difficult to live. There is no gas for
the car” and that would have affect our
kids but instead we said, “Isn’t this fun? Let’s go see what
we can find today.” – And that, that seed of
faith that was planted when you were back hearing and learning from brother Hagin, was it? – It is. – of understanding how
your words craft your future, your situation. – So rather than live in a
destitute situation, we lived in a very
exotic fun situation. Every day was a blast. – That’s right. – And I think the way that
you view life will really determine how
you experience life. – Praise God. It’s good word. Your wife Denise, she
is quite a singer and she is very
anointed. How did–and I know she’s not
on with us right now but how did her ministry
flourish over there? – Oh, flourished. I mean the soviet people
love ballet… – Uh-huh. – They love opera, they have
the Bolshoi Theater… – Right. – And here comes Denise. And in the
underground church, it’s always been kind of despised. Looked down as
people that were not educated. People that were not
successful in life. And here comes Denise,
a real opera singer. – Right. – It’s like God made her
for the Soviet people. I just wish you could see
when she does a concert. The people melt when
she begins to sing. – Praise God. – And miracles happen, healings
happen while Denise sings. – It seems from this side, you were made for that moment. – We were. That was our place. – Praise God. What a wonderful… And I love the fact
that it’s still going. New eras. The former Soviet Union
and all Russia and everything
going on there. – Yes, we’ve lived through
every imaginable history, We’ve lived through
the Gorbachev years… – Yes. – The Yeltsin years… – Talk about that.
How was that? – Well especially the
Yeltsin years, the whole Soviet Union had
fallen apart. And while he was the leader
of Russia, the right hand didn’t know what
the left hand was doing. Things were not connected,
there was no infrastructure but for the gospel, that
was very positive because there were no
limitations on what we could do. Today the government
has become a regular government so you’ve got to get permissions
to preach on the street… – Permits… – Which is fine. I
mean, that’s normal. – Could you do–And I know with
God’s help you could but from a logistical
standpoint, could you do what you did
when you went to that first– when you first moved over
there–now, what you did then? – We can do all of it, as long as we do it
according to the rules. – Right. – And that’s okay, whether
there is an orderly country, there is rules. – Yea. – And there have been multiple
reports that have come out that Russia is
loosing its freedom. It’s really not true. It’s just infrastructure and
the rules are being developed and as long as you do what
the law requires, there is freedom.
It’s fine. – And God is a
God of order. – And God is a God of
order, that’s right. – Praise God. Well I know
you’ve enjoyed listening to our
friend, Rick. There is so much. I want you to go to his
website right there on
the screen and learn more about
the ministry. The books as well as the
ministry there in
Russia. I know you want to
know more about it. I know a lot of our
viewers are already very familiar with you,
Rick but they may not
be familiar with all of your books
and literatures and sparkling gems and
Greek studies. I know you will want
to get and spend time delving into the Word
that you have such an excitement for
the Word of God that
it comes alive. It’s an adventure every
day like Rick was just
telling us. Amen? Well, let’s pray. Rick, why don’t you pray
for the people as they listen to you. I know people
are excited. And they want to hear
what God did. They want their
own adventure. – They do. I’d love to pray. – Please…
– Father, in
Jesus’ name, we approach You today for every
person that is listening and Lord I pray that You
would sow a seed of faith into their hearts, that they would not
live average lives, but they
would step out by faith to do something that
their family has not done. Something beyond
their own ability. We know that You are the God
that does exceedingly, abundantly above all that
we ask or can imagine. And we ask You to do
the impossible in their lives, in Jesus’s name. – In Jesus’ name. – Amen.
– Amen. [Speaking in Russian] ♪[Mrs. Denise Renner singing]♪
♪ “The Lord’s Prayer” ♪ ♪ Our Father which art in
Heaven ♪ ♪ And lead us not
into temptation ♪ ♪ but deliver us from evil ♪ ♪ For Thine is the kingdom ♪ ♪ And the power ♪ ♪ And the glory forever ♪ ♪ Amen ♪ Until next time, we see you. This is Gene Bailey saying,
thanks. God bless.

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