Socialism Is on the Rise in America

Socialism Is on the Rise in America


Welcome back to the David Pakman show. I am
Benjamin Dixon filling in for David. While he is away on vacation, I want to share an
image on your screen. Take a look at this. This is an image, a graph that was made by,
um, the Washington examiner, which is a right wing rag. Uh, but they’re citing data from
a new Gallup poll that just came out, uh, that states that fit through only 51% of Americans
think that socialism would be bad for the u s while 43% think that socialism would be
good for the u s and 6% have no opinion. Now, uh, if you look in the bottom corner, you
can see they put up the data from 1942 because they want to scare you. They want you to see
that America is going in their own direction. Uh, in 1942, uh, 40% thought that socialism
would be bad for the United States, and only 25%, uh, thought that it would be positive
while 34% had no opinion on the matter. Um, the question that the Gallup poll interviewers
asked was weird. Some form of socialism be a good thing or a bad thing for the, uh, as
a whole. This, you know, socialism is, is the Boogeyman, um, the boogeyman of the right.
It has been for some time. And of course, we can parse the difference between socialism,
communism, particularly Democratic Socialism. Uh, our, our social worker or a social democracy
versus communism. Um, but this has been the, the, the Muse of conservatives for time in
Memoriam. Um, they have engaged in the red scare and I want to be sure about something.
The picture that they, if you don’t mind, uh, pat put in the picture back on the screen.
They have this scary picture of Bernie Sanders or Bernie Sanders Looking, um, you know, weird
for lack of a better word. And then they have a AOC laughing. Um, I want to reassure the
American people of something, or at least those of you who are listening to this program,
Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocozzio Cortez, they are not real socialist. And I know we can get into that can fall into
the like the no true Scotsman kind of fallacy. But I want to assure you there are people
way further to the left of Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Kazuyo Cortez. Hell, I’m to
the left of Bernie Sanders and Alexander, you’re causing Cortez. And I have friends
who scare me with how far left they are. And then there are people even further to the
left of them. And we’re talking about a very small minority light, like a very small group
of people who are true Communist, you know, seize the means of production. Communist Bernie
Sanders and Alexandria Ocozzio Cortez are not that in any way imaginable. I described
Bernie Sanders Socialism as post office socialism, right? It’s and knock Ewas as the post office
are our fire, uh, fire department socialism it since, since, uh, simply gathering taxes
and doing a social good with them. Who? Socialism. And so, you know, I put all
of that in context because I want you to understand the game that is constantly being played on
Americans, Republicans and conservatives in particular like to play this game that anything,
anything whatsoever that does not capitulate to the free markets. By the way, the never,
they are not free markets, but that’s what they like to say. So we’ll use their terminology
just because anything that does not capitulate to what Republicans call the free market is
socialism to them. The post office should be privatized, write to them. Every aspect
of our lives should be privatized. The policing agencies should be privatized, right? And
they already have private prisons, right? For profit, right? They believe that the fire
department should be privatized. Our roads and our infrastructure should be privatized.
So what they’re looking for is some extreme version of laissez faire capitalism that that
really is, that takes all of the government resources. What my friend Randy Rhoads always said, our,
our, I believe she coined to first, right, you a privatized the profits and socialize
the losses. They want to take taxes from the government and use that to create this, this
utopia of free markets and then turn around if they lose anything, get that loss, socialized
like the bailout. So they are, they are for socialism there just for socialism, for the
rich. I believe Bernie Sanders, uh, said that phrase most popularly, uh, and most recently.
But we’re not talking about real socialism. We’re not talking about communism. We’re talking
about taking taxes and building a better infrastructure. We’re talking about taking taxes and ensuring
that people have the opportunity to work. We’re talking about taking taxes and t, uh,
making sure that everyone has an opportunity to go to college without getting in some type
of obscene dead. We’re talking about taking taxes and making sure that our healthcare
industry does not break the backs of people who get sick. And not only do you have to compound the fact
that you’re sick, but now you’re going bankrupt. That is not this terrifying form of socialism
that is post office bland milk toast, really easy to palate. It’s FDR style socialism.
It is FDR style. Uh, it is, it is yet another way to be quite honest with you to put a bandaid
on capitalism. So in a lot of ways conservatives should be embracing Bernie Sanders and Alexandra
Cortez, a Kazuo Cortez because their version of socialism is really what’s going to save
capitalism from itself. And if they are afraid of Bernie Sanders and, uh, AOC, then whew,
I’ve got some friends to introduce you to that it really scare you.

100 Comments on "Socialism Is on the Rise in America"


  1. A few years ago I visited Chicago and Wisconsin. I saw that most American people are of the opinion that you guys have the best country in the world, even pitying me for coming from the dangerous country the Netherlands. A country, according to Pete Hoekstra (U.S. ambassador in the Netherlands) , where the cities have no go zones and politicians are even set on fire. I don't know from where people get the idea that life in the U.S. is so superior compared to the rest of the world. All I saw was poverty in spite of long working days, people living on takeaway food and living in debt because of those convenient credit cards. Actually people are living like slaves. Financially enslaved that is.
    Of course I invited them to stay in my house, if they should ever visit Europe. And I would be glad to show them what life in the Netherlands is about. No working weeks over 40 hours, 25 holidays a year, good salary, good pension, good social care, good healthcare, etc, etc,. But maybe you are afraid of that, it is a bit socialistic in the eyes of most Americans.

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  2. People need to ask the real question. Why are people thinking this? Because our current system only works for those with money. Everyone else is left to fend off the scraps. Healthcare is for those with money. People can't make a living wage to survive.

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  3. WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS SOCIALISM MORE FUNDAMENTALLY. LET'S EDUCATE OURSELVES AND OTHERS AS TO WHAT IT IS.
    FIRST, SOCIALISM OR CAPITALISM ARE NOT ABSOLUTE IN ANY MODERN SOCIETY. THEY ARE UTILIZED TO DIFFERENT EXTENTS IN DIFFERENT PLACES. NOTE THAT SOCIALISM AND SOCIETY HAVE THE SAME ROOT WORD SOCIO, WHICH TRANSLATES TO SOMETHING LIKE COMRADE OR FREIND.
    HUMANITY COULD NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT SOCIETY, ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT WE COULD NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT SOME DEGREE OF SOCIALISM. THE MOST BASIC UNITS FORMED BY HUMANS TO ENSURE SURVIVAL (FAMILY AND TRIBE) ARE SOCIALISTIC UNITS. I COULD ARGUE THAT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR HUMANS TO SURVIVE IN A PURELY CAPITALISTIC STATE BUT THERE ARE NO HISTORICAL EXAMPLES OF THAT, SO LETS JUST AGREE THAT IT IS UNLIKELY THAT A PURE CAPITALIST SYSTEM COULD ENDURE.
    LET'S DISCUSS HOW MUCH SOCIALISM IS RIGHT FOR OUR SOCIETY, NOT WHETHER SOCIALISM IS GOOD OR BAD. IT CAN BE PROVEN THAT SOME SOCIALISM IS NECESSARY FOR SURVIVAL.

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  4. I can guarantee you that even the most hardcore conservative, that is on the front lines shouting at the top of their lungs that socialism will be the downfall to America, would change their mind as soon as they start to see the benefits of socialism.
    Conservatives, liberals, progressives etc. are all prone to an unforeseen accident that will bankrupt them. And I’m not just talking health wise to themselves.. they’re loved ones can be injured or killed, they can lose their jobs unexpectedly, they can have their vehicle break down, they develop a rare disease or get bit by a venomous insect.
    Life comes at you fast and it always comes in pairs, so the fact that these people would rather save a few dollars each month instead of ensuring theirs as well as each and every other American (while shouting America first!) is totally flabbergasting to me.

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  5. i dont think a black man can say "i have some scary friends to introduce you to" just like a white man cant say the n word

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  6. Bernie and AOC would be nothing more than run-of-the-mill boring centrists in other advanced democracies. It's just that we are still running on "dial-up" democracy on cassettes and VHS.

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  7. “We socialists are trying to save capitalism, and the damned capitalists won’t let us.” — Jerome Frank, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission under Franklin D. Roosevelt, distinguished judge and legal scholar. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-on-socialism-will-fail/2019/02/10/b6fe3a6a-2be4-11e9-b2fc-721718903bfc_story.html?utm_term=.87248d23390e

    U.S. Military: The Most Socialist U.S. Institution, https://youtu.be/0aqlioa6nFw?t=9

    The NFL is a Socialist Enterprise, Wolf Éirinn, Feb 5, 2014, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb0UNRl-paQ

    Donald Trump's favorite form of socialism. Socialism that benefits him. President Donald Trump's Golf Socialism, Mar 1, 2019, https://youtu.be/PaLC2rK-vi4?t=112

    NFL Socialism, Feb 25, 2011, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTVKt250MO4&t=17s

    "A basic principle of modern state capitalism is that costs and risks are socialized to the extent possible, while profit is privatized."
    — Noam Chomsky, “Hopes and Prospects," 2010, p. 114

    What we have in America today is corporate socialism, Crony Capitalism – American Style,
    — David Cay Johnston, author and columnist, Umediastudios, Dec 15, 2011, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKYPn0zJKc

    Socialism of the Rich, Capitalism for the Rest, Robert Reich, Apr 8, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmdivrgllf4

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  8. Socialism would not be on the rise if the government of this country would take care of its citizens using the citizens’ money to provide healthcare, education, and affordable living, which the government ROBS of us to fund wars that contradict our vital interests. For short term gains in profit, the government has allowed American society to decay. Americans are more poor, sick and uneducated than ever before and that’s not positive for the future of this country. But no country will ever be truly socialist. Capitalism balances socialism. Healthy capital ensure a healthy society and vice versa.

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  9. As an American with center right politics I have to say that this was a very interesting presentation. Historically speaking, capitalism and socialism cannot survive without each other. But most people on the far right or left don't want to see this. They say we must have either a socialistic economy and society or a capitalistic one. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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  10. Capitalism doesn't need to be saved from itself, it needs to be saved from Corporatism. It needs to be saved from greedy assholes who treat capitalism as a zero sum game that they intend to win. Real capitalism is good, but we haven't had that in over a century.

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  11. I don’t know who this new guy is I didn’t know that you were bringing the new person on to the show but between him David and Pat I love this show, it is miles ahead of tyt Jimmy door or any others I can think of

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  12. But it's OK to issue in fascism with Donnie baby – and he's acting like a dictator too.

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  13. Why should I believe you when you say democratic socialism doesn’t want to take over the means of production when this is what pops up front and center when I use google.
    Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside a socially owned economy, with an emphasis on self-management and democratic management of economic institutions within a market or some form of decentralised planned socialist economy.

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  14. As someone who’s been left behind by the left, this video scares me even more into wanting to vote against the dems.

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  15. I haven't heard any of these "socialists" advocate for public ownership of any kind of private industry. So I don't know about their "socialist" bona fides.

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  16. The rich will throw support behind fascism before socialism. It looks like they're already doing that, actually, and that's just with Bernie Sanders and he isn't even a socialist.

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  17. isn't Trump giving money to the farmers socialism? it's ok to buy votes but not to get something good done

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  18. While they are promoting the ideal of socialism as a scare tactic, fascism is really really on the rise.

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  19. This guy is correct in one way at least Bernie is not a true socialist he is actually a commie he loves him some russian dictatorship after all he honeymooned their oh and by the why any kind of socialism no matter what word/words you put in front or behind it means one thing is going to happen for sure eventually your country will end up like Venezuela/Cuba/russia/North Korea/China etc etc with a body count to match ever heard the saying you vote your way into socialism you have to shoot your way out of it and that is just a fact deal with it

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  20. Conservatives (at least the libertarian wing) are not as against socialism as they are against government. The government is inherently bad, regardless of who is in power. If communities want to organize themselves and all members VOLUNTARILY want to share wealth, means of production, resources, etc. nobody is against that. The problem is humans are inherently selfish and socialism is not compatible with our nature. The government cannot force people to give up what they have to people who need (although arguably it’s the right thing to do). It is immoral.

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  21. It's not like more Americans start thinking socialism would be good for the US. It's just that they are led to believe that more of the things that would be good were "socialism" boo 👻

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  22. Just change the fucking name. Say, do you want free healthcare, do you want Jeff Bezos to pay tax?

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  23. Social Democrats are a necessary alliance for now. Soon they will be the enemy for they preserve Capitalism.

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  24. It's not a competition between Socialism and Capitalism. It's not a zero sum game. Every country including the US has some degree of socialism.
    The US clearly needs to be more socialist because it has fallen behind most other Western democracies in providing basic services for its population.

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  25. to be honest, as a more radical left wing socialist, or as lenin put it an 'infantile ultra leftist', i actually quite welcome these more moderate electoralists devilifying the term 'socialism'. if you can get the electorate on board with subsidizing a worker cooperative sector of the economy along side the organizing of the workforce into trade unions, there's a pretty clear path toward getting rid of the unaccountable masters of the economy

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  26. To be honest, as a more radical left wing socialist, or as Lenin put it an 'infantile ultra leftist', I actually quite welcome these more moderate electoralists devilifying the term 'socialism'. After all, if you can get the population on board with subsidizing a worker cooperative sector of the economy along side the organizing of the workforce into trade unions, there's a pretty clear path toward getting rid of the unaccountable masters of our economic lives.

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  27. That was a bad question because a whole lot of people don’t know what it means.
    The question should have been way more specific stating exactly what social programs would be desired and compared with existing social programs

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  28. If the choice is democratic socialism or what we currently have, corporate capitalism with supreme leader and dictator tRUMP! Give me democratic socialism(social democracy) to try!

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  29. The reason that socialism doesn't have much pull in the US. It's because socialism no matter what prefix or suffix you use with it is about government control.
    That's why the poles are always garbage. I have to skirt around the issue has been asking people directly. Not because right-wing Republican blah blah blah. It is because of what socialism actually is. If people are truly curious about how much socialism people like in the US all you have to do is ask this one question.
    How much control should the government have over the people?
    1-Total,2- a lot,3- moderate,4- little,5- none.
    1&2 are socialism.

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  30. You say 'socialist' .. right wingers hear 'communist' . It's as base as that. That's just how the silly little republican mind works. They spout things like 'the republic' , rule of law' , 'free market' and get all teary eyed when they see trump hug the flag with his faux patriotism. Despite the fact that corporate greed has brought the country to it's knees by funding politicians to push laws that benefit them alone. Pay their workers the absolute minimum they can get away with, dump their waste into the environment with impunity and outsource their labor to other countries. They get all angry when someone comes along and says 'ok so you say we are the greatest economy in the world – lets give our kids a free eduction' … no they say – you can't have people having something for nothing .. well until a farmer comes along and says 'hey I voted for trump so I deserve a handout' They suddenly call this a 'subsidy'. No mention of 'bootstraps' – funny that isn't it? Surely the whole point of a government is to help its own citizens – otherwise why bother with one at all? Everyone could then just not bother paying taxes, do away with police, firemen, hospitals, the military and just build a fucking big wall around their homes and arm themselves to the teeth. That would be true liberty wouldn't it? That would be freedom wouldn't it? Nah what republicans want (or more specifically rebpublican politicians and their rich donors) is the illusion of freedom but with the ball and chain of financial oppression. Get everyone to kill themselves just trying to earn a modest living by making them pay for every fucking last item they need with interest! Need food? Put it on your credit card, can't pay the credit card, get some credit on against your home! Fall Ill, hey get some insurance that covers you for nothing but a common cold with extortionate premiums. Can't pay? too bad you lose. Go to jail where our donors will profit from your incarceration. Want to work your way out of poverty – hey no problem, just send us every penny you have for college degree that might pay for itself by the time you hit retirement.

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  31. AOC has stated she is a big supporter of worker cooperatives and other more socialist Enterprise economic policies. I agree with that of course because I'm an actual post capitalist socialist. I don't believe in capitalism at all, or more specifically I don't support it. So I'm the "anti American nightmare" they speak about. But yet all I want is for people to have more agency over their own lives and never have to worry about going hungry or depending on work to prove your value to society. I want people to be free to choose their own path that doesn't force them to work a job that doesn't suit them. I want us to be able to travel the world if we want to to gain knowledge and experience, I want us to paint, invent and study philosophy without starving. I want to ensure everyone is guaranteed shelter.

    No I don't support Soviet style socialism because that wasn't socialism. No self respecting socialist does.

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  32. The Washington examiner is the fox news of the written word…it's a joke to those who use their minds.

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  33. I'm one of those people who is a super left "seize the means of production" communist. It looks to me like former social democrats (like myself) are becoming true socialists and former center-left liberals are becoming social democrats. The left is going more left in other words. This is good.

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  34. It matters what your opinion is, your vote even more in 2020 so make sure you do.register first to vote.
    Russian government and brainwashed maga hats are counting on you to sit home too lazy to be American.

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  35. “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.”

    – Winston Churchill

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  36. No because AOC is a complete idiot who can't accomplish anything, even if you guys think she is brilliant XD

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  37. Jay Bee wrote
    “People might like what you are saying
    but they would probably like not dying better,
    after the capitalist industry comes up with a cure
    for the disease your voice caused”
    ============
    http://www.tpr.org/post/health-world-2018-numbers
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180523091109.htm

    The facts NEVER seem to fall on your side of the debate,
    do they Bubbles?

    BODY SLAMMED THE LITTLE WIMP !!!!!!!!!!

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  38. Jay Bee wrote
    “Bullshit. How you gonna make healthcare available to everyone, and at the same time save capitalism.”
    ===========
    Just ask all the countries that have done just that.

    TOO EASY !!!!!!!!!!

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  39. MidScream1 wrote
    “Socialism will lose because we Republicans control the Senate”
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    Then you guys will be in big trouble. Why?

    Because Socialism is what bailed your thieving asses out in 2008.

    OUTSMARTED AND OUTMANEUVERED !!!!!!!!!!

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  40. The political danger for parties of being tied to extremism should be apparent to both Republicans and Democrats.

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  41. The Conservative Right and the Radical Left, in short, often make common cause..

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  42. Democrats also suffer when Republicans are able to connect them with fringe groups.

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  43. Extremism is a very dangerous phenomenon and bad no matter what ideology adopted.

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  44. Fascism is on the rise in America. "It was within the tumultuous aftermath of the war that a vacuum was created, both economically and socially, giving a new faction the prevalent factors necessary for the rise of a new political party. This new system, fascism, evolved as a protest against democracy, socialism, and communist ideology."

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  45. Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Führer, Trump), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation.

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  46. The rise of in America fascism tells us in the strongest terms possible that our institutions don’t function well anymore and fascism rising is their ultimate failure.

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  47. Even Adam Smith who literally wrote the book on capitalism said
    "A power to dispose of estates for ever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fullness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural."

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  48. So this happened on Memorial Day:

    Pastor: Our soldiers didn’t die for socialism! They died for capitalism!
    Me: (To my sister) God’s a capitalist now?

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  49. We the people of the united states (socialism), in order to form a more perfect union (socialism), establish justice (socialism), ensure domestic tranquility (socialism), provide for the common defense (socialism), promote the general welfare (socialism), secure these blessings of liberty (from oligrchs) to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish, this constitution of the united states of America. #socialist #NotMeUs

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  50. What Democratic Socialism actually is from the DSA's own constitution:
    "We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships."

    The whole popular control of resources and production is the actual "socialism" part. That's what makes Democratic Socialism undesirably different from Social Democracy and Democratic Capitalism. Especially when AOC say's things that show such intent like "Capitalism isn't going to last forever".

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  51. When people bring up socialism to me, I say oh I didnt realize you wanted to privatize the police, fire dept, roads and the military. We already have social programs like social security and Medicare. People just dont realize its socialism.

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  52. Does the DSA not realize it lives in a very socialist society ALREADY!!!!???? Your democracy left many many years ago.

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  53. With immigration and the political Right crushing the Left all over the world right now probably not. Free everything is appealing but the demographic make up and the social issues like abortion seem to resonate a lot more with the broader majority of the populaces.

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  54. Socialism has been on the rise since the 90s when faux capitalist multinationals began normalizing coming here to China, and entering into joint ventures with communist party-owned SOEs.

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  55. To quote our glorious leader: "Democrats are going to rob Medicare to pay for Socialism."

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  56. In Europe: Bernie and Ocasio Cortez are just considered leftists. I think the acurate way of describing them is Social Democratic, because they are still capitalists who wamt a mixed marked system.

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  57. yeah because unrestrained capitalism is working so well

    Democratic Socialist agenda — an agenda that would benefit ordinary working people instead of the wealthy oligarchs who currently exercise control of politics through their copious donations to Republican coffers.

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  58. Leaving the Democratic party was one of the best decisions I have ever made in my life. #Freethinker

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  59. Hold on there for a second. Bernie and AOC are social democrats and not socialists, they are viewed as centrist slightly leaning left here in Europe.
    Socialism is NOT Communism, still authoritarian in nature but it's a watered down version of Communism.
    Democratic Socialism is NOT the same as Social Democracy. Democratic Socialism is baseline Yugoslavia, still authoritarian but you get to vote for one "correct" option, thus democracy.
    Social Democracy is the kind of Democracy here in Europe. That does not mean we are Socialist, we just have our Democratic governments protect our people trough Social policies, laws and regulations.
    That's why people here (Europe) don't fear to get sick or call an ambulance or go to collage, because it will bankrupt them. We don't have to fear that our employers will exploit us because we have workers rights and unions. Something that the US needs is Social Democracy, but you outright refuse it because you conflate it with Socialism and Communism and are generally far more right leaning as a country than most of the world.

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  60. Socialism is unconstitutional. I watch democrat party leadership promoting harassment and assaults, that's fascism. Socialism and fascism destroyed Germany. Literally.

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  61. A socially responsible Capitalism is not Socialism. It doesn't matter what people's opinions are when they don't know the true definition of what they're being asked about.
    The definition of Socialism: https://www.thebalance.com/socialism-types-pros-cons-examples-3305592

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  62. "The economic anarchy of capitalism is the root of all evil." Albert Einstein

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  63. 1942: Communist Party in the US flipflopping like ferrets on meth, and eventually listening to US republican explanation of what communism in soviet union and vietnam was. That was pretty much all people knew about communism. Of course people were scared. And with fear comes anger and resentment.

    It's just a shame so many pounded their fists and basically went 'Nope! This is all I need to learn for the rest of eternity!" – and education about how social elements and ideas in much more prosperous, free and healthy capitslistic ways, evolved around the world and in the west.

    Communism doesn't work well in practice, most people know this by now. While some of the theory may seem utopic – it can't work well because humans are humans. We work to moderate and regulate our worst impulses and the harm our flaws have on out surroundings, buy we can never actually fully negate it. Full-blown socialism doesn't really work either. Because same.

    That doesn't mean there isn't immense success and greatness for everyone, in social values. The great thing with politics and governance in the real world, beyond litterature and history – is that we're perfectly able to cherrypick the best bits from each model, create new ones, adapt and improve on others. We just need to be prepared for the task of stitching it together so that it works well as an overall system. But that's a development and continous maintenance job we gotta do regardless, as the country and world around us is dynamic – it will always be in a perpetual state of evolution. Fearing, or at least worrying about change, is human. The important thing is to not let that fear lead to stagnation. Because life, people, the world – it all changes whether we want it to or not. Resisting it is futile; not a single point in history did that ever actually work. Or at the very least, work out well and/or as intended. All it does is keep you out of the loop, missing out – it keeps you from enjoying the fruits of new development, while still carrying the shared burdens, and in time unneccessary heavier burdens than than the rest.

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  64. Bernie Sanders really, really need to shed the self-identifying nametag of "democratic socialist". It is technically incorrect (his values, ideals and policies align with social democracy, not democratic socialism), so it's misinformation to voters who don't know much about it, and to people that know the difference well and just happen to take their first or initial glances of Sanders and take him at his word. These are HUGE and important differences, even though the words make it seem like a matter of semantics. His policies wouldn't really have much impact on the American dream, the oppurtunities of capitalism etc – they more like regulate the worst instincts and most nationally and societally damaging aspects of capitalism. It builds foundations for genuine equal oppurtunity to pursue dreams and success – but it doesn't grant it – everyone still need to make use of those opportunities, work hard and compete to actually make it happen. It ensures we have basic human necessities, and it does miracle wonders for facilitating social mobility; phasing most poor people into the working middle class. Meaning a long-term, sustainable booming economy. It also holds corporations responsible when they misbehave, and sees to it that they too contribute to the evolution of the society of which they generate their success.

    Bernies socialist tag is factually incorrect. But more importantly – because we live in the real, imperfect world and time we do – it is causing him to take on somewhat self-inflicted damage, and completely avoidable political resistance and harm. Still to this day, "socialism" and "socialist" are severe taboos in enormous, extremely significant circles. In some demographies you might as well walk into Westborough Baptist Church and proclaim that you're gay – when you actually aren't. It's ridiculous that it's even a thing still, that anyone but (potential) partners give a single f*ck who you love and get freaky with as long as both are consenting and old enough. But there's no getting around that many still do. And it's almost the exact same with socialism, the only real difference is the platform and vessel of indoctrination.

    Bernie really need to shake that label, because it's significantly hurting his ability to see his values and policies to life. Thst means it's not just hurting his image and political career – it is hurting his constituents and everyone else in the country. Thr population majority have been been very clear, most on all sides of the isles generally/overall want most of the big ticket things he's selling. Meaning the only really big, significant point of attack his opposition have – is that target he himself paints on his own back on a daily basis. They're gonna continue to use that as a dishonest punching bag. And just by being factually correct – he could shake that label, or at the very least stop perpetuating it.

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  65. Socialism and social democracy are both bad ideas. Government getting more of our tax revenue to waste on failed programs because our politicians on both sides of the aisle are bought by lobbyists is a bad idea. Why should we give them more money?

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  66. Social democracy what Bernie Sanders proposes is the US's only chance of long term survival.
    If it does not become more egalitarian it will fall apart.

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  67. I live in NZ. Got sick in my country, and the public health system gave me a surgery, followed by scans and outpatient care for life, for free. My Dad has a gold card to catch public transport anywhere for free. He has a pension and also free healthcare. His house got insulated for free last month because of "socialism". He watches Fox and is a Trumpist as a result…

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  68. I guess there is no way to get my 6 minutes and 12 seconds of my life back after watching this video. Democratic socialism is NOT the way to go for this country.

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  69. I"m Canadian and I've seen what Bernie/AOC propose and it's communism not democratic socialism. If any Canadian party proposed any of that crap they would be voted out immediately lol…

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  70. Socialism horseshit. We are a socialist country. Social security, fire departments, police, roads, garbage collection, the post office, the military, public radio and tv stations.. So we need national healthcare big deal.

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  71. I don't think people care what things are called. That word "socialism" has a lot of baggage. If the question was asked "Do you believe that solving problems collectively as a nation is a good idea?" the response would be quite different.

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  72. Sociaslism is "collective ownership of all (or nearly all) of the economy by the workers" but Fox News consistently refers to everything to the left of ultra-conservatism as "socialism".

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