The Soviets Finish a Costly Winter War – WW2 – 029 – March 16 1940

The Soviets Finish a Costly Winter War – WW2 – 029 – March 16 1940


No, 12% Of the whole population Yes! Okay March 16, 1940 Finland has been fighting off the Red Army
of the USSR since the beginning of December, in some of the most appalling conditions for
war imaginable with temperatures as low as -40, but this week the Winter War ends. I’m Indy Neidell; this is World War Two. Last week Adolf Hitler signed the directive
for Germany’s coming invasion of Denmark and Norway; Chiang Kai-Shek had talks with
reps from the Japanese invading his China, and the Finns sent a delegation to Moscow
to negotiate an end to the invasion of theirs. They discover that “negotiate” to Soviet
Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov means accept whatever terms he issues. “Molotov conceded that perhaps Finland may
not have wished to be a pawn of the Anglo-French strategists, but nevertheless that was how
it had worked out and it was from that diplomatic and strategic fact that the current discussion
would have to proceed.” Well, you can imagine how happy this makes
the Finns. Molotov reads out the peace terms. The Soviets will move the Finnish border and
take the whole Karelian Isthmus including Viipuri- this region is currently home to
12% of the Finnish population; the Soviets will lease Hanko Peninsula, take the Rybachi
Peninsula, a bunch of islands off the coast, and some land near Salla. This is all roughly 25,000 square miles of
land, but perhaps more importantly, every naturally occurring defensive line Finland
has. Finns in the ceded land will have two weeks
to evacuate. They can choose to remain in their homes and
become part of the Soviet Union, but spoiler- not a single one will. Well over 450,000 Finns are rendered homeless. Finland will have to build- and pay for- a
rail connection from the Murmansk railroad to Tornio on the Swedish border. The Finns say they have to discuss all this
with Helsinki, well this actually happened just as last week ended, so they did. The fighting is still going on the field though,
since the Soviets said there would be no armistice until peace is signed. The Finnish Army, however, is beyond the breaking
point. There is no artillery ammunition, rifles are
worn out, units are down to a fraction of their strength, so the Finnish delegation
is told that since they cannot carry on the fight, do whatever you think is best, as long
as you are unanimous on it. Finnish PM Risto Ryti tries again negotiating
with Molotov, pointing out that the Soviets have not actually conquered most of the land
they are demanding. Molotov says, well, if you like, we can wait
until we do conquer it and then come back here and talk again. The Finns begin drafting the treaty with all
of the Soviet demands. Now, France and Britain see the winter war
slipping away, and with it any legitimate excuse for landing troops in Norway to stop
the iron traffic to Germany, so they try to do anything they could to keep it alive. See, on the 11th, Finnish President Kyösti
Kallio again appeals to Norway and Sweden for foreign troop’s right of passage to
Finland, but this is really just something for the record. William Trotter thinks this is done to cushion
the Finnish public from the shock of the Soviet terms- like they’d think they had no choice
because help could not arrive in time. Well, the British and French take advantage
of this plea. PM’s Neville Chamberlain and Edoard Daladier
announce in their Parliaments that they are ready to aid the Finns with anything at their
disposal. Chamberlain tells the Finnish ambassador that
all the Finns have to do is appeal and a squadron of bombers will head for Finland at once. There are also those like British Chief of
Staff Edmund Ironside who advocate just heading in and bullying their way through Norway and
Sweden over any local opposition that might arise. What they finally decide is to launch the
Narvik part of their Norway invasion, push past any Norwegian resistance then demand
passage at the Swedish border. Thing is, if the troops actually make it to
Finland, Britain and France will be involved in an active war against the USSR. Nobody really seems to consider that, though,
what they think will happen is landing in Norway to minimal opposition, Hitler counterattacks,
and the real fight- that against the Germans- can get going, far from their own lands. General Powell writes on the 13th, “Of the
4 or 5 divisions that might have been sent… not one division was intended for Finland-
perhaps a brigade or two if they were lucky… The rest were simply for occupying and holding
the iron-ore mines… they weren’t intended to go anywhere near Finland. It is really a most dishonest business.” The Finns, not being quite as gullible, trusting,
or stupid as hoped, do not make the appeal and the treaty ending the winter war is signed
in the early hours of March 13th. Outside of Finland, people are fairly surprised
by the peace terms. Stalin takes only around 10% of Finnish land,
and does not press on and try to occupy the whole country, which he likely could have
done. World War Two Day by Day has this to say,
“The Finns never had more than 200,000 men in the fight and have lost 25,000 dead and
45-55,000 wounded. Altogether… on the Soviet side, were 1.2
million men, 1,500 tanks, and 3,000 planes. Official sources put their losses at 48,000
dead and 158,000 wounded but this may well be a considerable understatement. The disparity in losses suggests to Allied
and Axis observers that the effects of Stalin’s officer purges have still not been overcome.” The Red Army may in fact have had as many
as 250,000 men killed. One Soviet general says on hearing that they
get the whole of Karelia, “We have won just about enough ground to bury our dead.” Max Hastings says that Soviet prisoners released
by the Finns are dispatched by Stalin to the gulag to contemplate their treachery in having
accepted captivity. Trotter says that several defectors in a position
to know claim that every prisoner is taken to NKVD camps, interrogated, and shot. The Finnish numbers might seem small, but
remember, this is a country of under four million people at the time. You’re looking at losing over a couple percent
of the entire population in just 105 days. As for the Allies’ Norway plans… It is on the 11th that the British War Cabinet
decides to send a force to Narvik and seize the 1.5 million tons of iron ore waiting to
be shipped to Germany, and will prepare to move across the border to the Gällivare iron
fields. The code name for this action is “Wilfred”,
and they will afterwards land at Stavanger, Bergen, and Trondheim. Wilfred is formalized the 12th. They also decide that they will not communicate
any of this to the Norwegian government until the ships have actually arrived at Narvik. However, as soon as the treaty between the
USSR and Finland reaches London, they reconsider and on the 14th, they abandon Wilfred. Winston Churchill protests, but Lord Halifax
thinks the only thing Wilfred will do is convince the Norwegians and Swedes to join he Germans. He could be right. As for the German plans for Norway, the Kriegsmarine
planners think that now the pressure is off for them to secure the Scandinavian iron since
the Allies no longer have an excuse to land in Norway. Hitler and Grand Admiral Raeder, however,
figure that their planning is advanced enough that they should go through with their own
invasion. And anyhow, occupation would secure the iron
for the future. And it would give the Germans bases that faced
the British east coast and gave swift access to the North Atlantic. Though the Germans are already attacking British
bases. On the 16th, 15 German bombers attack the
British fleet at Scapa Flow. One bomb hits a cruiser and kills three officers. A wayward bomb falls on land and kills a civilian,
the first British civilian casualty of the war. Winston Churchill tells the War Cabinet, “There
was considerable feeling in the country that while the Germans used bombs, we only dropped
leaflets.” This is true, for a day earlier, two British
bombers dropped over 6 million propaganda leaflets on Warsaw. Well, a reprisal raid is planned. The British do manage a feat this week; on
the 11th is the first aircraft sinking of a U-boat, as U-31 is sunk off Wilhelmshaven
by a lone Blenheim. And that is the week. A peace treaty is signed between Finland and
the Soviet Union; one that causes the Allies to abandon their plans for invading Finland,
but Hitler’s northern plans are still very much on the table. Yes, the Winter War is over. Finland never got the Allied help they hoped
for and no nation that size could resist the Red Army alone for long, but they fought well. This is from Finnish Commander Carl Gustav
Mannerheim’s farewell order to the Finnish army, “after 16 weeks of bloody combat,
with no rest by day or night, our army stands unconquered before an enemy whose strength
has grown in spite of terrible losses… our fate is hard… but we also know that we have
paid, to the last penny, any debt we may have owed to the west… That an army so inferior in numbers and equipment
should have inflicted such serious defeats on an overwhelmingly powerful enemy… is
a thing for which it is hard to find a parallel in the history of war. But it is equally admirable that the Finnish
people… were able to resist giving in to despair, and instead to grow in devotion and
greatness. Such a nation has earned the right to live.”

100 Comments on "The Soviets Finish a Costly Winter War – WW2 – 029 – March 16 1940"


  1. After 105 days of fighting, the Winter War is over. And with that, the second big conflict within the scope of our series is over (the first being the Invasion of Poland). At least, for now. While the Finns evacuate the taken territories, the Allied and the Germans are planning all sorts of stuff, mainly regarding Norway. Who know's how that's going to play out. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.

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  2. Russia: invades Finland and starts treating them like shit
    Finland: joins operation Barbarossa
    Russia: why would Finland do this?

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  3. God ! Glad I caught up with the series after watching the last 3 episodes in one day. I respect the Finns more than ever before. Peace !

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  4. My granpa, born in – 35, is from a small village north of Viipuri. He does remember when they were evacuated from their homestead despite he was only 4 at the time. They did return there, though only for a year or two.

    Grandpa loves to tell all kind of old stuff and I'm really interested to listen especially if it has something to do with wartime.
    Once he, his brothers and some other kids from the village found a soviet soldier's skull and kicked it around. Their moms were not amused and most of the boys got a beating for disrespecting the dead.
    One other time this same mischievous group found a unexploded soviet bomb and one of the boys got a brilliant idea of getting a hammer and starting to beat that bomb with it… I bet you can guess what happened. That boy's remains were all over the place, even hanging from trees according to my granpa. Luckily the other boys were smart enough to keep their distance and no one else got hurt.

    He had seen quite a bit of grim stuff that not many kid, or adult, can stomach. Especially nowadays.
    Besides seeing his friend explode to pieces, granpa has been helping to drag maggot-dripping soviet corpses from a lake to be buried. Wasn't exactly fun stuff and I can believe that.

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  5. so the west stabd us in the back. well tanxs for noting world. gredy pesece of shits. my gran dad whar there he just turnd 19 when he went.

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  6. How can 25000 dead be a "over acouple of % of the entire population" of Finlands 4 000 000? 1%=40 000

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  7. It really is impressive how effective the Finnish were. Over 1 million Soviets dead, that is roughly the equivalent of 1/3 of Finland's 1940 population.

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  8. Russians saying they won the winter war is like a high school student bullying a 10-years-old for lunch money. The student comes back with a black eye, but hey, he got the little brats lunch money. It is obvious that Finland won, as the russians were expecting a full surrender within 2 weeks.

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  9. 'not a single one will'…
    Source for you statement because in Finnish histrography it states that while the majority did leave, several hundred remained and became Soviet citizens.

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  10. The rest of the world: "Well Sweden didn't even do anything in the war. They just sat on their asses all day while watching their neghbors get conquered."

    We: We provided all our neighbors with weapons such as rifles, anti tank rifles, anti air canons etc. We may have sold our iron ore to the Germans but at least they weren't lazy enough to buy the weapons but to make them themselves. Our world famous 40mm Bofors Anti Air canon shot down more aircrafts than all Oerlikons (Swiss), Pom Poms (British) etc guns did combined. To be fair though both the 20mm Oerlikon canons were quite good and effective for they had a very high rate of fire, they were very accurate and the shells obliterated and tore any plane to shreds along with the 40mm Bofors canons all the way from Focke Wolfs, Dorniers and Messerschmidts in the North Sea and Atlantic to shredding Mitsubishis over the Pacific. Why did the only neutral countries make the best weapons of the war? Because we know how to work with our hands and we didn't send all our men, who worked in the industries and mines, to die in a war that was not our own. We did kill a few Commies in Finland though and my great grand father showed off the boat he worked on all over the world.

    https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/f00c3770-a485-4f91-bc49-19d66f85ab54/dcpsd5m-1ae4a64c-3cc1-44a4-8f8d-6e98899aa97a.jpg/v1/fill/w_1039,h_769,q_70,strp/kantai_collection___sweden___hswms_sverige_coastal_by_jmantime_is_here_dcpsd5m-pre.jpg

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  11. I was guessing around 250K total Russian casualties in my head. Sure was dumb to ship the repatriated prisoners off to the gulag. They would have been helpful against the Nazis in about 15 months.

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  12. 2:04 the feeling when you hear that and know that your grandmother was one of those 450 000

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  13. These videos only help reinforce that the allied powers were jokes to the causes the supported

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  14. Officer purge got rid of the old dudes that were stupid and brought in fresh younger formally trained and educated officers. Hate to spoil the drama.

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  15. According study of Pavel Petrov and database of names of deceased Soviet soldiers, the price of Soviet victory in Winter War was 167,976 deceased soldiers. Finnish losses: 26,100 dead. Total numbers more than 194,000.

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  16. "We can wait until we do conquer it and talk again"

    With every episode that has Molotov opening his mouth I hate him more and more.

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  17. An AfD-Ad? Are you guys nutts? I may quote the party-chair Gauland: "Germany must be proud on the achievements of the german soldiers in the 2nd WW". How does that fits into your channel, making you comfortable with showing AfD-Ads?

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  18. This was a very well made video. With facts and your costume is spot on. Maybe add some grain and lose some colour, not all. You do you, it works mate. Also, Hi from Finland.

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  19. I know that Stalinist USSR was pretty close to being as evil as you can get, but that Molotov quote was seriously badass.

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  20. USSR invaded Finalnd,Latvia,Lithuania and Bessarabia and nobody could care less……………..oh but then it was a Wall Street investment, equipped with American designed and engineered factories built up during the 1930's.

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  21. I live in a small village in Finland. It is a Finnish tradition to go at the night of 24 december visit the graves of the beloved ones who passed away. The busiest place is the war hero cemetery. Because everybody has lost a grandfather, uncle or cousin in this war. Btw allmost all soldiers who died came back to the village where they lived, and were buried there in the war hero cemetery. Voluneers (the lotta's) were doing good work so it was even possible to send their boys back in that good shape that their family could say their last goodbye.

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  22. Russia is a turd that just keeps on giving even to today they leave victims were ever they go

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  23. Yeah, keep whining.
    Finns got themselves into a stupid war and lost. Sadly it didn't bring sense into them and got fucked later again. Only after WWII they recognized that maybe having good relations with your big Eastern neighbour is not a bad idea.

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  24. One bomb hits a cruiser and kills three officers. Reminds me of something I read about the early fighting between the British and Italians in North Africa. The account of the British attack cited the gains in territory were achieved at a cost of only 6 officers. The historian didn't bother to mention the casualties among the rank and file which were considerably more. I wonder if this account of the bomb hitting the cruiser is more of the same.

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  25. We can talk all we want about what a disaster the invasion of Finland was for the Soviets. It did, after all, let the Soviets know how much Stalin's purges had damaged the Soviet defense position. It is entirely conceivable that Hitler could have further damaged the Soviets in HIS invasion. Could a Soviet military unchastened by the humiliation in Finland actually have failed to stop the Nazis?

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  26. Most posts praise finns, but the real military miracle was produced by the red army. I would call this war – The impossible war. Just the weather made it impossible. Mannerhaim line was impenetrable. Every military opinion was that it was impossible to break it. And yet, the red army broken it. Finns as soldiers were in a better position. Most russian arms were useless. Tanks could not be used in that thick forest and 2 meters of snow. To put numbers is misleading. The same was for the artillery and the air force. I gess no person who posted here spent one night in a forest when temperature is -40C. If you do, you will not forget that night for the rest of your life. Just one night and no war. How they did it for 100 nights is a miracle. Finns had many places they could hide and get worm. Russians didn't.
    Both parties thought the impossible war. Both parties had their heroes. Finns politically have better moral right to be proud of their heroes.
    Hitler misunderstood the war. To break The Mannerhaim line and fight in such impossible conditions, only could be done by an exceptional army. Russians showed strength, but Hitler misunderstood it as weakness.
    It was the only war of that kind in human history. No chance there will be another war like that again.

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  27. The translated title in Dutch reads "kostelijke" as a translation of "costly", however the correct Dutch equivalent is "kostbare".

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  28. It is a fact that during the Winter War between Finland and the Soviet Union, Soviet soldiers literally froze to death during winter; the Soviets remembered this and it would serve them well during Barbarossa.

    Another interesting fact is that the Frankenstein that never should've existed in the first place, the KV-2 was developed in haste during the Winter War because the Soviets didn't have field guns strong enough to puncture the Finnish lines!

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  29. The Finnish and Polish examples prove that in spite of western promises and treaties you’re on your own

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  30. The irony of WWII is that the Soviet Union was as homicidal as Nazi Germany and imperial Japan.

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  31. Finland has definetly pulled off an admirable feat. One does not trifle with the USSR lightly back then.

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  32. 2:30 There is a myth that the Finnish army was near to collapsing. The situation was the same throughout the war, and it was time to get the equipment from soviet or received as grants and get experience. At the beginning of the war, there were no uniforms or weapons to all troops (37 different caliber ammunitions to hand guns and rifles).The arrival of the spring was a disadvantage for the attacker when the passage was in a bad condition. The great amount of waterways and marshes was already a disadvantage anyway.
    Germany influence made war end that time. Government was lying to people how bad situation was.

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  33. If we in the US ever lose territory to an invasion, I nominate Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, Tennessee, and Oklahoma.

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  34. Disgraceful how the LON and Western powers sat on their hands as Finland scratched and clawed to survive.

    Very proud of my Finnish ancestors who fought the good fight…against a tyranny every bit as monstrous as the Nazi.

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  35. My grandfather left Finland for the USA in 1906. When the Soviets invaded, he wanted to take his boys and go fight. My grandmother wouldn't let him go. All 6 of my Finn/American uncles saw combat in the US Army and Navy.

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  36. Finland deserves everyone’s admiration. Their small nation, small army, but tenacious people fought well. They never gave up, they resisted against impossible odds. Attacked on two fronts but vastly superior forces they could have resigned and joined the attacking forces like Italy had done.

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  37. God I really do love a good underdog story , the finish soldiers did their people proud .

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  38. Mannerheim: Hey Stalin. Do you want to hear a joke?
    Stalin: Da.
    Mannerheim: Helsinki.
    Stalin: Helsinki? I don't get this one.
    Mannerheim: And you never will.
    Stalin: Cyka blyat go to gulag.

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  39. I'm glad the Finns butchered those Soviet vermin en masse, I only wish they had killed more. And it's one of the great injustices in the world that land stolen as recently as 1940 from a democracy is still in the hands of Russia to this day, long after the fall of the Soviet Union. Return the land stolen from Finland by Stalin in 1944. And thanks again Finns, for slaughtering Commies.

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  40. "Yuri Kilin, a Russian historian who has specialised in Russian-Finnish conflicts, has attempted to get a clearer picture of the losses of the Soviet Union for the Winter War. He started a project, Russo-Finnish War 1939-1940, alongside Veronika Kilina, with the main aim of helping relatives find their lost. Starting with an initial 168,024 irretrievable losses, they managed to correct the number down to 138,551 dead. They also matched up the places names and corrected those that had been misidentified. Adding these to the sanitary losses of 264,904, we are given a total casualty figure of 403,455.
    "

    Gives a more precise number on the casualties on the Russian side.

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  41. We fins did what we could, with what we had. While soviets got help from the US & brits did go war with us too. + we had to fight germany out from our lands. Things were complicated back then.

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  42. Donald Day highlighted the British intentions in regards to the iron ore fields in his book written many many years ago, Onward Christian Soldiers. But then again he is a discredited author so we better not mention him around here.

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  43. The Germans probably used the propaganda leaflets as toliet paper for the whole war

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  44. My Grandfather remembers the winter war. He grew up in Helsinki. My Grandmother grew up in Joensuu, really close to the front lines. The stories my grandfather had were just terrifying.

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  45. Finland may have lost the war (still hotly disputed subject given enough alchohol in the local bar) but won it's independence

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  46. I thought Indy was a WWl kind of guy. No matter, those two wars seem to flow one into the other.

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  47. The winter war was for Hitler the reason to attack Russia to save the democracy Finland. Britain did nothing to stop Russia. Was Finland not a democracy like the Czech republic? What went wrong here?

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  48. prejudice towards finns, Stalin needed to secure Leningrad and he did, war could have been avoided, stupid finnish governmet didnt negotiate. If a country is small it doesn"t mean it had no plans to take more territory by helping Germany. While visiting Antrea on the Karelian Isthmus during the War of Independence on 23 February, 1918, Mannerheim issued a proclamation, in which he swore that he would not put his sword into the scabbard until "Lenin’s last warrior and hooligan" were driven out of Finland and of White Karelia

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  49. I've heard it said that of the belligerent European nations in WW2 all had their capital cities at some point under foreign occupation … with just 3 exceptions… London, Moscow and Helsinki. Let me know if you know of any others.

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  50. The glorious Russian army was garbage until American lend lease arrived. The NKVD made the German army look better than it was. NKVD was staffed by the children of the party hierarchy, their job? Slaughter any and all unarmed Russian peasants who faltered in charging German machine guns. Body count? Credit to the Germans.

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  51. The Soviet Union have 10000000 men killed. If the Soviet Union army was 3000000 men they lost 1/3 of they army. Than Soviet leader state at fact.

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  52. Finns and Finland are the true heroes of all nations during WW2. Attacked, betrayed, let down by everyone and resisted invasion from some of the most brutal regimes this planet har ever seen. All this and they still had time to rest in their saunas during the invasion. That is "Sisu".

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  53. As our great General and President of our nation said ones.

    Mannerheimi sano:
    "Nyt sitä lähtään
    silmien väliin ryssiä tähtään!"
    Silmien välliin,
    silmien välliin,
    silmien välliin ryssää juu.

    God Bless Finland

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  54. One of the main reasons Hitler invaded Russia in Barbarossa was because of Stalin trying to obliterate Finlandia. Such a tiny country, and the idiot Bolsheviks showed just how good Communism is in building esprit de corp. Yes, if you get captured while shot and unconscious they murdered you when you were returned after peace treaty was signed. Makes for really good morale, just like with anything Communist, it sucks top to bottom.

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  55. "Soviet prisoners released by the Finns are dispatched by Stalin to the gulag to contemplate their treachery in having accepted captivity."

    Wow, that sounds like a very dark comedy. After fighting in a bloody war, your country punished you for not choosing death over captivity.

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  56. Stalin must have been pretty pissed off after realizing the Finns simply ran out of ammo the both times.
    I guess there are certain things you just don't mention during peace negotiations.

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  57. My impression is that Finland has been punished by giving up so much land, while they weren't the aggressor. My question is: why?

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  58. Few things makes me more furious than when today's carreer scholars who name themselves "historians" attack Marshall Mannerheim. Without him and his military and political experience, the incredibly brave soldiers of Finland would have fought and lost all, and without them fighting so bravely, no "ordinary" military genius had been enough to lead them. He was the only leader with the experience, guts and cool enough brain to do what was most effective with the people and materials Finland had.

    He was a true hero, the only possible war leader in the country there and then with respect from all, and the only one able to make the decisions necessary with complete integrity. I agree with King Gustaf, it was he who saved Finland and at the same time Sweden three times. We owe Finland so much, and though our government did the only possible thing staying neutral – what Finland would have too if being left alone – we have no right to be ungrateful.

    The huge injustice at the end of the war and the imprisonment of President Ryti and others, that will always be an ugly stain on the victorious Allies. We also sent some hundred refugees from the Baltics back to Stalin and the KGB in 1946. It was simply awful. Still, to this day, communism is excused by so many within the establishment of the West, for crimes they naturally and rightly would condemn the nazis and fascists for. I know it didn't matter for those who got arrested, tortured and killed who was behind the guns.

    What makes a society dangerous for real, is when a group – any group; ethnical, political, class, linguistical, religious, any at all – can committ crimes and atrocitites beyond the reach of The Law or under protection of The Law. The same thing is true when a nation or union of nations form such a group in another nation and make their laws inefficient. It is the same thing, it is to violate the just freedom of individuals and sovereignty of a people. Mannerheim realized this was exactly what communism was up to and saved his country from becoming a part of the Soviet Union already in 1918.

    The only leader it is fair to compare him with is Churchill, because of the same kind of disparate threads leading up to these crucial moments in history, though they were very different as persons. Mannerheim sat with Churchill at a dinner in London and his comment was: "My God, how much that man can talk…"

    It is quite wonderful that his last years contained a really romantic love story. He had earned it like nobody else.

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  59. and why Russia started war with Finland? Because idiot Mannerheim agreed to let Hitler army in Finland, it is life or death matter for Russia. Russia offered lands in exchange of not letting germanies near Russia boarders, but arogant Mannerheim did not agree, and because of this idiot was killed many Finland and Russia peoples and Finland lost their teritories

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  60. Respect to Finland.
    The West really screwed them over.
    Finland may of been small, and at a huge disadvantage.
    But they put up one Hell of a fight.
    No wonder you guys produced the worlds greatest sniper and the man who served in 3 armies!

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  61. I'm wondering, at what point Sabaton may write a song or two about the fighting on the Karelian Isthmus and Mannerheim…

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  62. 7:25 the finnish name to gällivare is jälliväärä. Jälli means used snuff/snus and vaara in this case is a type of mountain which is wholy covered with trees… (vaara also means danger in finnish)

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