100 Comments on "We Have A Democracy Problem"


  1. Same thing could be said on the US side of the pond – What do you think, folks?  Business as usual?

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  2. How about a video on the American perceptions regarding Britain. Americans often hear that the British don't like Americans, not even as tourists. Yet, we see the British time and again throwing open the border to Arabs and wrapping their arms around them. Please explain, I mean after all we saved your asses in WWII , but we can't save you from yourselves you know. Perhaps the British people should want to explain this historical shift to Americans like me so there will be someone to record the closing of your history for you. If 'they' are willing to destroy ancient cities to obliterate human history, then think how quickly your modern fragile systems can be negated from  future historical knowledge. I admire Mr.Condell and feel certain he won't be offended by my humble questioning. And it will help an American of similar age and ethnicity to  more fully understand British 'culture'; that is, of course, should there be any left to report on.

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  3. Just don't vote because you're schizophrenic enough to predict the outcome of an election. There are so many of you with this disgusting mind state that YOU collectively do actually effect the outcome. That goes for the loser below me. Just fucking hang yourself.

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  4. Force them to be held accountable for their action and their promises, and reduce their legal priveledges if they lie. there now Weve solved the problem.
    Now the only quesiton is, how do we enforce it?

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  5. Agathist has been busted. He's not actually a young child as you'd think by the children's toy represented by his avatar and the childlike way he has of thinking. He's using it to groom children.

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  6. Fuck democracy it is just Mob rule, it does not even guareente freedom. The Rule of Law is the only thing that does that.

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  7. Hey @bangfarang i want your help. Let's deal with this rotten ANTISEMITIC scum called "IrishWarrior".

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  8. Pat Condell:  Sometimes I love you, sometimes I hate you. But most times I am confused by you. You seem to hate everything you support, and support everything you hate. Pray' tell us who the real demons and threats to our democracy are, and what your solution to them would be….. It is easy to agree with waffle, but it doesn't achieve anything

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  9. How will you be voting this time around?

    I didn't vote. I have never voted in my life and it is something I am very pleased about. Voting only serves to s(elect) who goes to work for UK plc. It doesn't even matter what party they belong to. MP's get paid by HM Government so their loyalty lies with their employer. Democracy in this country (UK) only exists in the Houses of Parliament and Local Government chambers. The people don't get any say whatsoever as the agenda is already laid out. It's all an illusion.

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  10. We need a consensus  system, that is a system whereby the people have a referendum on the issues. Technology can afford us a secure system of voting such that we could vote on the issues as often as needed, weekly or daily even. We must campaign for a consensus system in the UK. We no longer want parties who all have baggage we do not agree with. We want a more interactive system of democracy which affords the people the right to vote on the issues. This is perfectly possible with current technology so there is no argument against it. We should be voting on issues rather than parties on a weekly basis such as we might vote on Britain's Got Talent.

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  11. Amazing ! If I didn't know that Mr. Condell was a citizen of the U.K. , I would swear his commentary was a critique of the present day American political scene. Both Great Britain and the United States are in lockstep with international banking interests. The reason for the European Union is to foment mass immigration in order to break down the historically (1/2)

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  12. (2/2) powerful labor unions, bring wage increases to a standstill, increase profits, marginalize the common man, and consolidate the power of the financial elites. "Leaders" like Cameron, the Bush family, and maniacal warmongers like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Netanyahu have all made millions in blood money from orchestrated conflicts in the Middle East. But, people around the world are finally waking up to the nightmare.

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  13. And who do you think is bribing the politicians, Muslims or Jews ?. Who prints the U.K pound Jews, of course. Since 1694 Jews have controlled the "Bank of England" and issued the pound for nothing but the cost of ink and paper.

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  14. Blue eyes are dominated by all brown eyes except Africans….brown eye dominated because they can interrupt the talk of blue eyes person and also brown eyes person (except african) can make better jokes or insults… those two soft power tools are responsible for the decline and genocide of blue eyes people.

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  15. Switzerland is the only real democracy in the world, rest of the western democracies are just illusions of democracies, ran by greedy, corrupted party officials, paid by the taxpayers.

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  16. Yeah it is like that worldwide I am afraid, well the exception is Switzerland where public referendums can be binding as it should be in a democracy.

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  17. Hey Pat, I recently stumbled upon your channel. And I must say, I truly applaud your efforts in all your videos. You do amazing work and I love it all. Thank you for all your videos! P.S. I really think you should write a book if you haven't already. I'd totally buy it.

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  18. In the US, it doesn't matter what the people vote for or what Congress does. The Supreme Court will just throw out any election results.

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  19. please look up  MASS IMMIGRATION IS ORGANISED by NEOTRIESTOWARNU  ,it will explain a lot, please pass it on, all is explained

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  20. Excellent video, Pat Condell!

    The ONLY thing conservatives care about is torturing & oppressing those already in prison, and giving free money to useless or criminal banksters & financial services employees & to worthless criminal religions like islam & christianity & pseudoscience garbage like astrology & homeopathy.

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  21. HELL-LALUJAH UMMAH KINGDOM (UK)!

    Islam is the fastest growing in the UK, according to the latest study (today's article in Times Of India newspaper):

    "Islam fastest growing religion in UK by Kounteya Sinha
    Study: Church Of England In Decline, 49% Are Atheists"!

    David Cameroon and Liberals must be mighty pleased at the PROGRESS of the RELIGION OF ETERNAL PEACE! What a TOLERANT and PLURALISTIC SOCIETY YOU ARE, mister UK! Kudos!

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  22. I don't like Pat Condell because he doesn't have pictures of cute animals that can rip your face off.

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  23. No Political Party is actually bothered about the housing shortage.. No Political Party is going to tackle the institutionalized pedophilia.. there are no penalties for Parties not implementing their Manifesto

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  24. Kind of a logic fail here, who's money do you think the bankers lost Pat? That we bailed them out for? It was OUR money, MY money, YOUR money. So you'd prefer them not to be bailed out. Okay so you'd be happy with going to the ATM the next day and finding nothing left in your current account? Apparently so.

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  25. The UK 2010 Census showed that the UK is now 23%+ nonwhite. Maybe that is why the UK govt said we will have no more censi.

    But hey, no problem!

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  26. The UK 2010 Census showed that the UK is now 23%+ nonwhite. Maybe that is why the UK govt said we will have no more censi.

    But hey, no problem!

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  27. The UK govt has said whites will be an ethnic minority in the UK by 2035!

    But hey, no problem!

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  28. The UK govt has said whites will be an ethnic minority in the UK by 2035!

    But hey, no problem!

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  29. The thing is, religion is the solution to this problem.. More particularly Islam is the solution, laws shouldn't be man made as they always strive to put one man above the other and are all about power.

    One should read into the Shariah Law. By this I mean the real Shariah law, not the Fox News version. 😉

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  30. Which is why I am, as I heard one person describe it, a "political athiest."   I can't vote for the "lesser of two evils" because they are identical, simply put — the words are different, the actions simply variations of the same theme.  The U.S.A. and the U.K. are nicely sympatico, aren't they?

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  31. The problem with democracy is that the progressives interprets the word in many ways, except the actual meaning of it which is the people rules. Right now the majority of the people want something but the governments does the opposite, and why? There is many reasons but this is not democracy!
    For example here in Israel there is a show in the theatre inspired by a terrorist who killed a soldier in cold blood (not in combat), and the government is providing money (tax money of course) for it. If you'll ask the people they'll all tell you this is abomination!
    Democracy? I don't think so…

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  32. Pat  is so sarcastic  , to the point and harsh , to bad , Truth can hurt and hard work , personal gratification  and belief in individual rights seems harder than Utopian Marxist  venom !

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  33. Pat, you didn't say a word about the electoral system there in the UK, the First Past the Post voting system (FPP), which clearly favors the two major parties in the UK.

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  34. "What we have is the appearance of democracy where we vote people in who then give us the finger and do what they like". Ok. So you've just described every western nation on the planet. Bravo!

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  35. I think the best situation is a maximum of ethnic diversity within each nation combined with a maximum of reasonable sovereignty for each nation unto itself.  This, and we have to prevent genocide.

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  36. I think one of the most paradoxical questions we can ask is: How do we enforce the law without violating rights?  Is it more important to enforce a law or not violate rights?  I suppose if someone were going to violate the rights of more than one person we must make damn sure that doesn't happen.  But if a kid is playing on a rich person's lawn we must make damn sure not to violate his rights to health and life over removing him from the lawn.

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  37. You sir are a true genius you really should write this all down its like hearing the truth for the first time fair play

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  38. We are having the same problem in the U.S. We are currently being ruled by a rogue president and a panel of judges. They overturn laws voted on by the people of each state on a consistent basis.

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  39. The UK government doesn't 'take orders from people we didn't elect and can't remove'. The EU Commission doesn't give orders – it simply makes proposals which are discussed, amended or rejected by the member states. The British government – which is directly elected – is therefore involved in every stage of the legislative process in Europe. The European Parliament shares power with the member state governments for adopting legislation (this is known as co-decision) – and its members are directly elected by the people. And the EU Commissioners may not be directly elected but they are proposed by member state governments (elected) and have to be approved or rejected (which happens) by the European Parliament (elected).

    A right of veto for individual member states exists for major policy areas such as foreign affairs and tax. Regarding other areas the EU legislates on – environment, road safety, measures to combat alcohol abuse among the young, support for small businesses etc etc  – if the UK is the only state disagreeing with a policy it can choose an opt-out. Individual citizens can initiate EU legislation themselves if they can get 1million signatures – this is known as the European Citizens' Initiative.

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  40. You seem to have the same issue(s) we do in the U.S. Where does it end , LOL I am hoping we can turn this around in the UK and the U.S. Please have a great week sir:)

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  41. NO MORE POLITICIANS!  VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WORKED AND WERE SUCCESSFUL AT LIFE AND BUSINESS!! Pol's are usually lawyers who weren't good enough to make a living.

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  42. I don't vote what's the fucking point, if we live in a democracy then I'm the king of Spain, this country is a fucking joke it's simply a police state masquerading as a democracy.

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  43. But Pat, representative democracies are the case in every country apart from Switzerland. Modern democracy barely resembles the democracy of the Greek city states in antiquity. How is the UK expected to be the beacon of hope when we have more political problems than other countries who espouse the same system.

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  44. Democracy is just another form of tyranny. You said it yourself Pat– the politicians promise a whole bunch of things, they get into office, and then they force around whomever they want at the point of a gun. We can't achieve any sort of virtue or sanity as a society when there is a violent mafia running everything.

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  45. Pat you have a Queen, what's this about democracy? how do you think the great democracy that you live in came to be?? so do you really think you have democracy? Talk shit about the EU all you like but your race is the biggest oppressors on the face of the earth.Even though Britain has mostly stopped killing people en mass 100 years ago but you still relish it's rewards today. Might be a case of old empire is good but new empire is something to be feared… old tactics if you ask me

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  46. Daily reminder – POLIWORD PROJECT was designed to fix this mess with our "democracy", all we need is support…

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  47. there is no way that the majority will vote to exit the EU in a referendum. Literally a zero chance of this happening. That's not really a failure of democracy, it's down to human nature and just how the cookie has crumbled. It will end up like UKIP in parliamentary vote – lot of noise, zero result. I doubt the pro exit vote will break 30%

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  48. You know we in America and Europe couldn't have always been this messed up at odds and disgracefully ignorant, what the hell happened to us ? … Something in our overall psyche had to change or be altered and when we figure out what that is if we ever can, then I suspect we will self correct and with no small effort steady up again I think.
    Socially there had to be a turning point, where we came to a crossroad had a choice of right and wrong and we choose wrong, backtracking over our changes of what we considered norms and in social direction, the answer has to be it seems to me in that direction somewhere, common sense dictates that.
    I suspect this mistake will have the words multiculturalism and diversity all over it, guilt will have been its driving engine and tyrannical new world types with their corporate backers, along with the useful dupes of university liberal socialist elites with their wisdom of teaching the ethics of self sacrificing anti us self hatred to our future leaders, and no doubts aided by hypnotized power mad politicians that would be better called whores and that is being kind, will be the ones at the steering wheel of that bus when we went over the edge of reason and rationality into a abyss.

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  49. I have to disagree with your opposition to profit in the health sector:

    Profit, in a capitalist economy, serves as the reward to a service provider and is the mechanism of the truest form of democracy: voting with our wallets. Profit is the incentive for both efficiency and quality as a company should lose its customers if it provides poor service or charges too high a price for a service. Nothing can ever replace the profit incentive as a means of ensuring service providers provide the best service possible. (Unless you like your single payer healthcare that is. How long do you have to wait for a dentist on your side of the pond again? Yea thought so.)

    The health care providers that provide the best care for their patients will, in a free economy, receive the most profit. They benefit and we will as well. I understand its attractive to believe that "certain industries" just can't be motivated by profit, yet at the same time, most of us understand that when we want really nice things, we want competition in industry.

    I can think of little that is more important that excellent health care, which is why we should be advocating for the highest levels of competition in the free market for health related companies. The more they compete, the better off we'll all be.

    Excellent rant though, keep it up!

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  50. The reason Britain votes for the same people again and again and again is because you blithering idiots voted down (against) preferential voting a few years ago. The first past the post system entrenches a 2 party system +- a third. I expect the upper house (H of L) is not elected.

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  51. If the people would vote for the examples you bring forth, which I strongly doubt, I’m happy the United Kingdom is not a democracy. If people would so easy give in to simplicity and egoism I’m afraid the world and the United Kingdom would not be a better place. The reasons for the Iraq war may have been false and disgraceful, the most inefficient and hurtful decision was to remove the troops around fifteen to twenty years to early. If the world would have invested more money and resources in these countries, then they could have started their development towards stable and save states where Islam and Western values could coexist together.

    And for your second example, although it feels unfair and we should reform and limit the power of the banks way more, without bailing them out the economy would have collapsed in a terrible way that would have hurt everyone. That means that our current economy is a threat to us, reform is necessary but hurting everyone by irresponsible behavior – such as not bailing out banks that are big to fail. And yes that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t punish bankers to discourage them, but individual guilt is very difficult to prove and ‘just punishing everyone’ is off course no option.

    I’m afraid you overestimate peoples intelligence when you say that their wouldn’t be cuts in the budget for healthcare, people are selfish and as long as they don’t need healthcare themselves the aren’t interested in sharing the load. And about cutting budgets for police and army, that isn’t such a bad idea at all and I think even the majority of people would see that. Most of the time the army is a formal form of capital destruction, especially if you aren’t willing to invade countries to remove evil regimes that don’t respect the rule of law. And your idea that our societies are getting less and less secure is plain wrong, we live in one of the safest periods in human history and only a feeling of fear is growing (an argument that most people are stupid and shouldn’t hurt the rest of us by voting for idiots).

    Also stopping with foreign aid would really help reaching world peace and global prosperity. Especially impoverishing states with nuclear weapons is not at all dangerous, as if not almost all violent conflicts arise from poverty. But you don’t even stop there, immigration is off course inherently evil and brings only terrorists and criminals! Such short sightedness and stupidity aren’t worthy to be a part of the European Union, and if your own over valuated ‘people’ wouldn’t have voted you out of the Union we should evict you as soon as possible.

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  52. This guy on this issue is full of BS. Cameron never went back on his promise of holding a referendum about UK participation in the EU. This referendum WILL happen. Condell has ranted about what the masses wanted in terms of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. We in the UK elect politicians on their manifestos. If we did not trust the people we elect, then it we would not vote for them. Also, who says most UK people were not in favour of going into Afghanistan and Iraq? The world is changing. The UK, a once mighty owner of a vast empire is now a moderate economic/military power that needs the EU. And thankfully so. Of course being part of the EU comes with a certain amount og bagage, but the gains far outweight the costs. Condell, can have his say and he would be the 1st in line to allow people who do not agree with his opinions to also have their say. Still on his comments on this vid, I think he is living in Lala land.

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  53. I don't vote! left wing,… right wing, the bird is the same. Why are you so surprised at the corruption of your Government, don't you know all governments are like that ?? Lots of lies for breakfast, corruption for lunch and lots of wars for dinner,…all served on a Silver plater.

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  54. It's funny Pat Condell's new videos never pop up on my subscribe page……youtube trying to hide his feed I think, tell the truth and they try to hide it.

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  55. Actually, the only "crime" committed by "the bankers", was taking money form the tax payers; but it was the government that started the bank meltdown in the first place.

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  56. You should really give Mr. Cameron an apology on your remark about the referendum, Mr. Condell (smiley)

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  57. Ok, so I stumbled across your little channel because of your stance on brexit – you see I am in remain camp. As I have commented under other video it seems you trying to make some point, which might be valid, but it wasn't clear in that other video of yours. Here you are saying we have some sort of joke democracy (I would like to call it parliamentary dictatorship of sorts), but hey.. what do you expect? As soon as you hear politics – you know it is going to be dirty… even for me "filthy banker". Funny enough I agree wit hall points you made above – indeed we have no democracy, our representatives do not represent us at all unless by mistake etc. etc. you are right. However, in summary again it seems you just have a little video to moan about that – what is your suggestion?

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  58. Long live Democracy freedom of speech and expression, keep up the good work pat, peace ✌️

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